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 Post subject: Re: Turbo or Supercharged?
Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:54 pm 
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As said depends if you want to wait for a BA turbo, and hot that up, or if you want to do it all yourself, and end up with an illegal car (WGAF tho).
I'd go an EF Futura (no bias?), with a snort kit. Could get it sorted, on the road for well under $10k including purchasing the car.

 

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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:02 pm 
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krisisdog wrote:
As said depends if you want to wait for a BA turbo, and hot that up, or if you want to do it all yourself, and end up with an illegal car (WGAF tho).
I'd go an EF Futura (no bias?), with a snort kit. Could get it sorted, on the road for well under $10k including purchasing the car.


Hmm, so there are no chances of getting this stuff engineered to be legal?
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:06 pm 
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well... mine is engineered with the supercharger!!
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:14 pm 
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Daymoe wrote:
krisisdog wrote:
As said depends if you want to wait for a BA turbo, and hot that up, or if you want to do it all yourself, and end up with an illegal car (WGAF tho).
I'd go an EF Futura (no bias?), with a snort kit. Could get it sorted, on the road for well under $10k including purchasing the car.


Hmm, so there are no chances of getting this stuff engineered to be legal?

Well in VIC it would be hard and costly to get engineered... safest bet would to go straight gas as well.

I got half way through turboing my old EF, was gonna get it engineered and everything, i can find the link to the build thead if ya want.. But then i decided to get a BA XR6T, alot easier to get power out of!! haha plus a newer car is always better :wink:

 

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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 1:44 am 
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Is it really much harder to remove a turbo setup compared to a supercharger?

Change exhaust manifold - done! When you install it, just make sure it's all flanged in the right spots so your extractors will bolt straight back up to the cats.

 

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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:53 am 
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Daymoe wrote:
krisisdog wrote:
As said depends if you want to wait for a BA turbo, and hot that up, or if you want to do it all yourself, and end up with an illegal car (WGAF tho).
I'd go an EF Futura (no bias?), with a snort kit. Could get it sorted, on the road for well under $10k including purchasing the car.


Hmm, so there are no chances of getting this stuff engineered to be legal?

Well in VIC it would be hard and costly to get engineered... safest bet would to go straight gas as well.

I got half way through turboing my old EF, was gonna get it engineered and everything, i can find the link to the build thead if ya want.. But then i decided to get a BA XR6T, alot easier to get power out of!! haha plus a newer car is always better :wink:


Its not just, just expensive.
straight LPG doesn't help that much on a Post87 car anyway.

 

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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:26 pm 
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Injected LPG does. And the new generation systems are supposedly able to support 500+rwKW on a 6 cylinder.
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:29 pm 
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Injected LPG does. And the new generation systems are supposedly able to support 500+rwKW on a 6 cylinder.


I'm referring to legalities.

People raved about Straight LPG on pre-VL's and XF's because it was a work around to emmisions laws.
post 87 cars still need emmisions testing on LPG, so some of that benefit goes out the door.

as for Injected LPG being an option.. its very difficult to justify the ~$4-5k outlay.

$4-5k is a lot of coin that could be spent on some other EFI hardware.

 

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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:27 pm 
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What are the rebates like and are they still being handed out?
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:01 am 
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why not do both ! as for dedicated gas injection its not possiable without the fuel system as the gas system fires on fuel first till the vehicle warms up enough and then the gas cuts in ......

 

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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:35 am 
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What are the rebates like and are they still being handed out?


$1750

 

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Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:51 pm 
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I've found two possible project cars, both automatic (I want manual, but that can be part of the project right?) a 1991 EB Falcon and a 1996 EL Falcon, $500 and $1900 respectively, what would be the better choice? The EB has paint peeling off its bonnet and roof, plus has that crappy 3.9L motor but it is $1400 cheaper, the EL paint looks alright and has the 4.0, both have 370,000km on them, so I'm guessing an ACL rebuild kit wouldn't go astray, or would I need something much more stronger for a mild turbo/supercharger build? I'm guessing a paint job and motor from a wrecker is going to cost more than $1400 anyways unless I get a backyard job or attempt it myself.

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