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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 4:35 pm 
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2x GT3540's are probably a little overkill :S


dunno bout overkill but f**k me that would make some huge figures :P


The lad reackons 685ish rwkw's i was like WTF! nice as... how come my crotch is sticky? lol

But cam is right superchargers sound like a good alternative...
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 4:54 pm 
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2x GT3540's are probably a little overkill :S


dunno bout overkill but f**k me that would make some huge figures :P


The lad reackons 685ish rwkw's i was like WTF! nice as... how come my crotch is sticky? lol

But cam is right superchargers sound like a good alternative...


well you know there a cheap kits available that still perform well and so on like the twin turbo kit from snort performance....for the BA its 5or 6K for parts....might mod the components list a lil....then labour, better EMS could almost do it all for round 12K ad that a pretty awesome TT kit.....supercharger looking round 10K so yeh depends what u want.

 

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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 5:06 pm 
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i think atm i'm to the point of flipping a coin... too many decicions
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 5:36 pm 
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it all depends where you want the power, i have a 05 ba futura, im thinking more of supercharging it as i mainly drive around town and i like it fast off the mark, however if you want big figures twin turbo would be the go. im personally shoosing to supercharge mine because its different, there are a heap of xr6 turbos, they come out stock!!! and besides around town ill be at the next set of lights before they even spool. No offence, but maybe if you are going to do show, start with a better base like an xr6, less stuff you will have to change, i have learnt that as i have a gt kit and no xr headlights yet! good luck with it and hope to hear some updates with it.


Sif an XR6T has much turbo lag.
And besides, most aftermarket superchargers build power with revs anyways so there is hardly any advantage.
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 7:13 pm 
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yeh, you do have a point, but it all depends on what you get or what you spend, id just like to supercharge because its different and thats where i like the power for what i wanna do. over a distance a turbo will definately get it, and in the dyno

 

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Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 3:38 pm 
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it all depends where you want the power, i have a 05 ba futura, im thinking more of supercharging it as i mainly drive around town and i like it fast off the mark, however if you want big figures twin turbo would be the go. im personally shoosing to supercharge mine because its different, there are a heap of xr6 turbos, they come out stock!!! and besides around town ill be at the next set of lights before they even spool. No offence, but maybe if you are going to do show, start with a better base like an xr6, less stuff you will have to change, i have learnt that as i have a gt kit and no xr headlights yet! good luck with it and hope to hear some updates with it.


Sif an XR6T has much turbo lag.
And besides, most aftermarket superchargers build power with revs anyways so there is hardly any advantage.



Hmmmm. Trick one. Very tricky.

Methinks that the XR6 Turbo either suffers from a little turbo lag, or some serious engine protection management system, or an auto tranny that has to think about it a little before selecting a gear (doubt the tranny theory becuase I know they aren't slow). An XR6 Turbo doesn't really feel like there is a great deal of lag becuase there's 4.0 litres and plenty of grunt to begin with. However, there is a noticeable 0.5 second pause from when you sink the slipper to when she REALLY starts haulling...
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 3:43 pm 
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That's more the electronic throttle then lag from the turbo.

 

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Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 5:48 pm 
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why dont you do something completely different on a falcon six and supercharge it as well as a huge single turbo, so you have the initial boost of the supercharger, but when the big turbo spools up you have the powr from that. now that would be something to see.


that's a great idea, pioneered by lancia back in the 80s with the S4... goes real well, but engine management woluld be very difficult. plus you need to run 2 intercoolers, R+D will suck, hard.


you would only need 1 intercooler, look at the nissan march superturbo for ideas on how to setup a turbo and supercharged car.
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 7:32 pm 
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OMFG!!

This is a what i got back after i enquired about the Turbo and Supercharger format for the BA

Josh

Thanks for the enquiry. It will take $20,000 and 6 weeks with your car here if you have a manual, or $23,500 if you have an auto. If you would like to go ahead with such a project, I would be happy to discuss the finer points of the conversion once you are commited.

Kind Regards

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Phone:+61 2 9708 2122
Fax:+61 2 9708 2912
www.gcg.com.au
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they are testing you. making sure you are for real befor they commit time to talking to you about it.

i do it all the time. put up a slightly over the top price straight away, because in most cases the first questions is "how will BLAHH BLAHH BLAHH cost" it quickly sorts out the dreamers from the people who are for real...

because beleive it or not we are bussy people and our time is worth money, spending an hour talking to some one about something they have no money to do is not time well spent.

 

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Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 12:11 pm 
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Big Kev wrote:
Mr_Soul wrote:
Big Kev wrote:
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2x GT3540's are probably a little overkill :S


dunno bout overkill but f**k me that would make some huge figures :P


The lad reackons 685ish rwkw's i was like WTF! nice as... how come my crotch is sticky? lol

But cam is right superchargers sound like a good alternative...


well you know there a cheap kits available that still perform well and so on like the twin turbo kit from snort performance....for the BA its 5or 6K for parts....might mod the components list a lil....then labour, better EMS could almost do it all for round 12K ad that a pretty awesome TT kit.....supercharger looking round 10K so yeh depends what u want.


There's no point running 2 3540's because the lag that you'd get running two of them would suck. The whole point of twin turbo is to give the same power as a bigger than normal single turbo without as much lag, well that's how i understand it anyway.

And downing, it's a turbo, of course it's going to have a little lag, my point was it doesn't have much... besides, you be a real man and buy a manual and launch it at full boost :p.
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Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 12:15 pm 
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soulfire wrote:
Big Kev wrote:
Mr_Soul wrote:
Big Kev wrote:
soulfire wrote:
2x GT3540's are probably a little overkill :S


dunno bout overkill but f**k me that would make some huge figures :P


The lad reackons 685ish rwkw's i was like WTF! nice as... how come my crotch is sticky? lol

But cam is right superchargers sound like a good alternative...


well you know there a cheap kits available that still perform well and so on like the twin turbo kit from snort performance....for the BA its 5or 6K for parts....might mod the components list a lil....then labour, better EMS could almost do it all for round 12K ad that a pretty awesome TT kit.....supercharger looking round 10K so yeh depends what u want.


There's no point running 2 3540's because the lag that you'd get running two of them would suck. The whole point of twin turbo is to give the same power as a bigger than normal single turbo without as much lag, well that's how i understand it anyway.

And downing, it's a turbo, of course it's going to have a little lag, my point was it doesn't have much... besides, you be a real man and buy a manual and launch it at full boost :p.


It's my old mans and if the T5 behind the BA XR6T wasn't such a dog and if the sequential auto wasn't so bloody brilliant, he probably would have "been a man" and bought a manual. EL boy :lol:
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Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 12:22 pm 
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why not 1 T6 turbo and a nice 15pound Capa SC , thats 1 other option to play around with .

 

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Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 1:26 pm 
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Hey short of the odd clunk when changing gears the T5 is alright :p - I drove a 5 speed manual xr6t and didn't see the problem with it...
And for the last time sequential auto is gay! :p. Well i have nothing to back that up, but I for one just really hate sequential shifting. I prefer the old "D 3 2 1" lol. Just feels like driving a manual car in gran turismo, which i hate. Always forget what gear i'm in and s**t :p.
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 12:40 pm 
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Hey short of the odd clunk when changing gears the T5 is alright :p - I drove a 5 speed manual xr6t and didn't see the problem with it...
And for the last time sequential auto is gay! :p. Well i have nothing to back that up, but I for one just really hate sequential shifting. I prefer the old "D 3 2 1" lol. Just feels like driving a manual car in gran turismo, which i hate. Always forget what gear i'm in and s**t :p.
EF boy :p.


Yeah, shifting manually in GT4 sucks balls, for sure :D
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 10:42 pm 
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The 6sp man is a nice feeling box, dunno what the 5sp is like
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