Fordmods Logo

Water Injection with Intercooler? 

 

Page 1 of 1 [ 15 posts ] 

 
 Post subject: Water Injection with Intercooler?
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 10:47 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 40

Posts: 2351

Joined: 11th Nov 2004

Gallery: 30 images

Ride: Blown XR8

Location: Melbourne
VIC, Australia

Hey guys,

Just wondering whether anyone can see any point in running Water Injection with an Intercooler?
Just thought it may keep the inlet temp's down even more?
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 10:58 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Age: 42

Posts: 7287

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Gallery: 12 images

Ride: 1994 ED XR8 Sprint

Location: Somewhere in
QLD, Australia

it wont hurt!

 

_________________

Banned

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 11:01 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 38

Posts: 4946

Joined: 15th Nov 2004

Gallery: 2 images

Ride: Trik'd up EFII XR6

Location: Perth
WA, Australia

Yes it will keeps the temp lower but to what degree im unsure

 

_________________

For Sale: 25 Farad Rockford Fosgate Competition Series Carbon Cap, more to come - pm me if interested

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 11:29 pm 
Fordmods Addict
Offline
User avatar

Age: 38

Posts: 7958

Joined: 1st Jun 2005

Gallery: 13 images

Ride: Falcon

Power: 237 rwkw

Location: Melbourne
VIC, Australia

What about an intercooler spray Dave?
Autospeed had a good article on a DIY one using, of all things, a pump out of Espresso machine!
(Apparently very high pressure, yet still tiny and fairly quiet)
Downside, it uses 240v AC, but I'm guessing you already have an inverter for the PS2?

http://www.autospeed.com/cms/A_2720/article.html

 

_________________

ED XR8 Sprint - S-Trim, V500, 249rwkw
BF MKII F6 Tornado - 237rwkw

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:00 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 45

Posts: 1440

Joined: 7th Nov 2004

Ride: 320kw BA XR8

Location: Adelaide
SA, Australia

Plenty of people do it in the US, mainly on higher boost setups though. Water injection will obviously further lower intake temps but the water in the air charge also significantly reduces combustion temps. You can also run a 50/50 water/methanol mix on track/dyno days.

A good water injection setup can actually perform better than a FMIC, especially the cheaper ones, but a good setup isn't cheap. I run a 10L water tank in the boot, a 200psi pump and a MAP based computer controller. I am still tuning it and trying to find what sized nozzle gives the best results, but so far it seems good.
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:00 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 45

Posts: 1440

Joined: 7th Nov 2004

Ride: 320kw BA XR8

Location: Adelaide
SA, Australia

EDIT: double post
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:06 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 40

Posts: 4304

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Gallery: 9 images

Ride: EF Falcon XT-T

Location: Mornington Peninsula
VIC, Australia

Rmyers has both on his s/c I6, but this is mainly due to the fact that its still using the factory EF timing maps and needs any protection it can get.

 

_________________

FALCN6 - EF GLi Turbo, 20" Rims, Air Bag Suspension, Straight LPG, 225rwkw
DTHWGN - EA GL Wagon, LTD Interior, Satin Black, 5.0, Turbo
RACER - EF Futura , 5.0, 5 Speed
PROJECT - 83 Thunderbird, Lowered, 18" Billet Wheels
DAILY - BA Fairmont Ghia 5.4 3V

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 11:34 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 40

Posts: 2351

Joined: 11th Nov 2004

Gallery: 30 images

Ride: Blown XR8

Location: Melbourne
VIC, Australia

Thanks for all the suggestions and help guys.
I can pick one up fairly cheap, so imight give it a go and see what the results are.

Dave
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 11:51 am 
Fordmods Junkie
Offline
User avatar

Age: 45

Posts: 1000493

Joined: 6th Nov 2004

Gallery: 2 images

Ride: AUXR6 HP With Ducati SupA Bike!

Location: Perth
WA, Australia

Steady ED wrote:
What about an intercooler spray Dave?
Autospeed had a good article on a DIY one using, of all things, a pump out of Espresso machine!
(Apparently very high pressure, yet still tiny and fairly quiet)
Downside, it uses 240v AC, but I'm guessing you already have an inverter for the PS2?

http://www.autospeed.com/cms/A_2720/article.html



hahah thats cool :) coffe machine pump!!!

 

_________________

RIP SCOTT

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:39 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Posts: 1960

Joined: 6th Nov 2004

Gallery: 22 images

Power: 315 rwkw

Location: Under the flight path of incoming packpackers
NSW, Australia

Thermo fans on intercoolers work very well too, great for reducing heatsoak at idle :wink:
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:43 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 35

Posts: 975

Joined: 26th Nov 2004

Ride: el falcon

Power: 608 rwkw

Location: Waroona
WA, Australia

how does water injection work and wer do u put it?? i know wat intercooler mist spray is

 

_________________

# 1997 EL Falcon GLI - 600+rwkw

# 2008 FPV FG GTE - Xa Coilovers, 20x8/ 20x10 Fairladys

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:47 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Posts: 1960

Joined: 6th Nov 2004

Gallery: 22 images

Power: 315 rwkw

Location: Under the flight path of incoming packpackers
NSW, Australia

Most common method is a jet close to the throttle body, spraying into it... basically water just atomizes and cools the air... simple and works but can be a pain to keep filling up the water tank
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:06 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 42

Posts: 8655

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Gallery: 37 images

Ride: V8 EF Futura

Location: Adelaide CBD
SA, Australia

CHEF wrote:
Most common method is a jet close to the throttle body, spraying into it... basically water just atomizes and cools the air... simple and works but can be a pain to keep filling up the water tank


^ what he said.

The CAPA kit water injection systems are a little more primative - they have a low pressure pump which sprays water into the intake just in front of the blower inlet.

Having said this, the CAPA kits work very sell to combat detonation. Tough to get setup tho - anyone at the SA dyno comp @ morpowa would have seen what happens when there's too much water going in :)

 

_________________

I promise..... I will never die.

Fordmods Administration Group MINOR PUNKED

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:01 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 45

Posts: 1440

Joined: 7th Nov 2004

Ride: 320kw BA XR8

Location: Adelaide
SA, Australia

4.9 EF Futura wrote:
The CAPA kit water injection systems are a little more primative - they have a low pressure pump which sprays water into the intake just in front of the blower inlet.

Having said this, the CAPA kits work very sell to combat detonation. Tough to get setup tho - anyone at the SA dyno comp @ morpowa would have seen what happens when there's too much water going in :)


Yeah the CAPA kits are alright for a basic setup but do seem to have their problems in tuning. With my new setup I probably inject 4-5 times more water than the CAPA setup and have no issues, but it does come on progressivly as boost increases and runs at very high pressures producing a very fine mist.
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:57 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Posts: 1960

Joined: 6th Nov 2004

Gallery: 22 images

Power: 315 rwkw

Location: Under the flight path of incoming packpackers
NSW, Australia

I used one of these kits a few years ago, they work well but a good FMIC works just as well


http://www.aquamist.co.uk/
Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:
Sort by  
 Page 1 of 1  [ 15 posts ] 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 10 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

 

 

It is currently Sat Apr 20, 2024 7:27 am All times are UTC + 11 hours

 

 

(c)2014 Total Web Solutions Australia - Australian Web Hosting and Domain Names