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 Post subject: 302/351 windsor education
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:17 pm 
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ok so i know jack s**t about windsors

theyre 60 degree V8 right

all E series V8s were 302s

how do u make a 351 from a 302? is it like the clevo where u can swap crank and rods from a 351 into a 302 block???

what models did the 351 windsor come in?

and is the newer windsor (aussie 1991-2002) the same as the 60s one?

 

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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:23 pm 
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You cant make a 302 windsor into a 351, because the deck height is different.
302s are 8.2", 351s are 9.5".
Clevos are 9.2" or thereabouts.

 

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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:25 pm 
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you can make 'em 347 though !!!

 

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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:07 pm 
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The Windsor V8's are a 90 degree block. They look narrower beacause the heads are narrow, compaired to a Clevo.
The 351W has a larger crank, as in the Mains are big. They are 3" in dia, compaired to a 351 Clevo, so you can't fit a 351W crank into a 302W block, but you can fit a 351C crank into a 302C block.

 

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 Post subject: Re: 302/351 windsor education
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:10 pm 
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gogetta wrote:
what models did the 351 windsor come in?


I think the last falcon they were fitted to was a first series XW. After that, they went to the Clevo donks.

 

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 Post subject: Re: 302/351 windsor education
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 3:18 pm 
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cjh wrote:
gogetta wrote:
what models did the 351 windsor come in?


I think the last falcon they were fitted to was a first series XW. After that, they went to the Clevo donks.


'87 to '97 5.8L F-series trucks had the EFI 351W. All OHV Ford V8's are 90 degrees. People constantly, and wrongly think 289/302's have a 60 degree Vee because their deck height is so short.
The basic differences are that the late model 5.0 has a lighter block(25lbs lighter!) with taller roller lifter bores and a lighter crank(smaller centre counterweights) hence it has a 50oz imbalance compared to earlier 302's which have the same 28oz imbalance as 351W's and Clevelands. Heads are similar with the exception that the late heads have stamped steel bolt on rockers and the early heads had rail-type cast rockers and the water jackets are slightly different(but still interchangeable) also from the AU model the engines got better GT40P(also referred to as Explorer heads) heads which flow better than the earlier heads.
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 Post subject: Re: 302/351 windsor education
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:51 pm 
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XR9UTE wrote:
All OHV Ford V8's are 90 degrees.


Hey you forgot about the 60 degree Taurus V8, technically it is OHV, just it is also OHC :lol:

 

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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:15 pm 
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Macca wrote:
XR9UTE wrote:
All OHV Ford V8's are 90 degrees.


Hey you forgot about the 60 degree Taurus V8, technically it is OHV, just it is also OHC :lol:


No I didn't....I call that a different category OHC :D
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 Post subject: Re: 302/351 windsor education
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:26 pm 
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XR9UTE wrote:
Macca wrote:
XR9UTE wrote:
All OHV Ford V8's are 90 degrees.


Hey you forgot about the 60 degree Taurus V8, technically it is OHV, just it is also OHC :lol:


No I didn't....I call that a different category OHC :D


As much as I would love to play with one, after reading a lot of forums etc dedicated to them, I don't think the Taurus V8 is that crash hot, just idea of having a "Ford" overhead cam engine that is smaller than a big block ( :shock: modular size isn't) is interesting, that is without something from Cosworth etc

 

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