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 Post subject: 302w/c
Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:00 pm 
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ok so i have looked around but not finding much trying to figure out weither my 302 is c or w how do i tell??? or should i just post pics, also need the firing order, this is what i have 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8 but i keep getting different firing orders from ppl and help is appreciated
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 Post subject: Re: 302w/c
Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:18 pm 
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if it is the one in your el, it is a windsor. Is this the one you are talking about, or do you have one in another car?

 

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 Post subject: Re: 302w/c
Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:21 pm 
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no its not the one in the el its the one on the floor :D i wish the el was an 8
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 Post subject: Re: 302w/c
Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:35 pm 
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i thinking about rebuilding my first block what i wanted to know out of many question first was should i magnaflux the block? do ppl do this before they decide to rebuild them?
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 Post subject: Re: 302w/c
Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:09 pm 
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Really need a pic of the front to be sure, but it looks like a Clevo to me.

 

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 Post subject: Re: 302w/c
Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:53 pm 
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Definately a clevo! The fuel pump location and heads give it away!

The windsor has a alloy timing gear cover and the fuel pump is attached to it. Your engine has the fuel pump attached to the block!
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 Post subject: Re: 302w/c
Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:19 am 
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Being a Cleveland the firing order is 13786542.
You can magnaflux the block but usually if the engine was a good runner people don't bother. If it's unkown you may want to do it.
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 Post subject: Re: 302w/c
Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:48 pm 
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thanks for that XR9UTE i'll see if i can get her to fire over the weekend, another question as i have never built a v8 from bottom to top how does one decide on what internal's to use??? i plan on only driving it on weekends, i come across different set ups that range from 400hp right up to 800hp o its not for the 302 its for a 351 and they are stroker set ups
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 Post subject: Re: 302w/c
Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:37 pm 
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Sorry bloke I switched a couple of numbers there, it's 13726548.
The stock rods and crank are good for very high hp but the question is what do you want?
These days a 393 stroker kit is a great way to make a substantialy more torque and power than you otherise would have and increase the life of the engine by not having to rev the s**t out of it.
If you don't want to go this way I'd use the 302 rods and a 351 crank with pistons to suit the longer rods. This will give you the 351 cubes minimum but with less rod angularity meaning less side load on the cylinder walls.
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 Post subject: Re: 302w/c
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:10 pm 
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thanks again for that, yeah i was looking at the 393 stroker kits, i would not mind hitting something over the 500hp mark, this is not something im just going to jump into it, so looking over a year to build just the engine as i have read that its all about how much your willing to spend plus some, could you tell me what this means i know the ovis,flat tops 12:1 but whats the 12:1?
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 Post subject: Re: 302w/c
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:04 pm 
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thumpa wrote:
thanks again for that, yeah i was looking at the 393 stroker kits, i would not mind hitting something over the 500hp mark, this is not something im just going to jump into it, so looking over a year to build just the engine as i have read that its all about how much your willing to spend plus some, could you tell me what this means i know the ovis,flat tops 12:1 but whats the 12:1?


That's spot on...durable high performance costs lots and cutting corners results in greater cost in the end.
A mate of mine has an alloy headed 393 cleveland that makes 575hp...it cost about 20 grand. It pushes his heavy XB Fairmont to low 11's with lots of traction problems.
If that's out of your price range I know of a great stock stroke combo that will get you in the 350rwhp range on std unleaded.
12:1 would be the compression ratio.
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 Post subject: Re: 302w/c
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:43 pm 
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thanks for that mate im trying to fire over the 302 but having trouble getting any spark does anyone know if i was to run a volts meter of the coil what it should be running at?
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 Post subject: Re: 302w/c
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 9:45 pm 
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all good found some help full diragram drawn up by tipperw which i found very use full Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 ty
got her to fire up o got to love that v8 sound, had a bit of a miss hap my leg was right near exhaust and sorta caught fire rofl o the joys of toys
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 Post subject: Re: 302w/c
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:46 pm 
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Hi everyone,
Has anyone here put a 302 in an AU Falcon that previously had an inline 6 in it?
if so, what are the big change overs?
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 Post subject: Re: 302w/c
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:32 pm 
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in the au, u need dash, loom, bem, auto, ecu, loom, engine, k frame, mounts, ahhh thats all i can think of atm

 

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