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 Post subject: 5.4 in to ef xr8
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:12 pm 
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hey guys sorry for making yas think id allready done it... just wondering if n e 1 has done it... coz im preety keen to do it... if so wat were the problems ... did it fit ok... is it possible to make legal, and wat sort of process is it
id prob put either the sequential 6 speed or the manual 6 speed in it...



cheers for all your help...
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393 xe ghia stage 5 als raceglides c4,9" full spool 31spline moser axles. Will be looking at running high 9s low 10's

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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 12:37 am 
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Are you mad? Shed load of custom work & $$$ required & those motors are nice when new, but become hand grenades waiting to be boat anchors as soon as the warranty ends.

IMO stick to a windsor. 351w will bolt straight up to your current box & mounts, be compatable with your current computer (gt40 or aftermarket efi manifolds are available) & take almost all the go-fast 5.0 bits (eg. alloy heads). Get a 94'-95' 351 & it will be a roller cam block. If you really want a ball tearer though, put a 351w crate motor already stroked to 408ci with vic jr heads. Does wheelspin in top sound appealing?

 

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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:01 am 
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yeah f**k the 5.4.
It won't fit, the electrics will be all f**k up, you'll have to do chassis damage even if you can get it in.
I mean think about it, the BA is a fair bit bigger than an e series, a lot taller too. And they couldn't fit the boss in without a bonnet hump.
stroked 351 sounds liek good advice to me.
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:45 am 
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sounds like a good idea to me ;) weather it can be done.. no idea!

 

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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 10:40 am 
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Compared to the Windor 5.0, as we all know the 5.4 is massive in size, esp in quad cam form.
Im seriously not sure if it will fit.
A stroker 302 to 347 would be great i think, esp with a 6 speed behind it.
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:13 pm 
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E-Series have wider engine bays than XA-XC, so it will fit with a bit of custom work, and some block hugger extractors, but the question is why?

For the same money you could build a twin turbo or supercharged 429 windsor with an aftermarket block. 5.4's weigh more than a clevo with iron heads, and a 302W is around 100kg lighter than a cleveland.

5.4's are big, heavy truck motors.
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:25 pm 
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I measured it up quickly the other day and the E-series bay is wider than even the BA one. I think it was 810mm vs 780mm. Depth was harder to measure because of the bulky V8 mount on the E-series K-member so I measured from crank centre line to top of radiator support on both vehicles and they are the same. Bonnet clearance may be an issue but otherwise the 5.4 should just fall in there. The 5.4 is a smidge shorter than the 5.0 too.
As for electronics it should be pretty easy. A reflash with smartshield turned off would solve the antitheft side of things.
Still, if I were going to fit a modular I'd get an '03/'04 4.6 Supercharged Cobra engine. Shorter deck means smaller size and the power potential is enormous! Electronics wise it's similar again....turn PATS off with TwEECer.

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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:34 pm 
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Thats a nice looking XR you have there in any event
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 8:21 pm 
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cheers guys for ur responces...
im thinking mybe it mite be a future (distant)project... as 4 now im looking up a few crate motors and the strocked 351 packare did catch my eye...
does n 1 know much about the man o war crates... are they good tough motors.

cheers dannyboy i put almost every dollar ive had on it to date... i wanna start getting serious..

this car is purely to satisfy my needs to have fun...
and god damn i love it.

cheers guys keep the feed back coming

hey if any 1 knows a little bout the crate packages can u let me know. cheers

 

 

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393 xe ghia stage 5 als raceglides c4,9" full spool 31spline moser axles. Will be looking at running high 9s low 10's

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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:20 pm 
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should get the guys at FTG to have a test fit in a wreck ;)

cmon darren, ya know u wanna :D

 

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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 6:50 pm 
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LET ME KNOW IF YOU GET THE 5.4 IN!
Cause that is what I wanted to do!
Would be an awsom combo, hot car and sik motor. :) :D
GO THE XR :!:
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 10:04 pm 
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ive heard on quite a few accounts including from FTG that they dont fit the heads dont clear the shocker towers in a n e series engine bay
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Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 9:46 am 
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Thats a shame, those motors are awesome
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 Post subject: 5.4 in 2 ef
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:21 pm 
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hey guys i spoke to a mate who owns a car resoration and auto body srtucturing joint and he said he could probably make it fit given the rough measurements i managed to get.
but he also clarified wat was said earlier...
the heads are a little to tall... they would make it a real challenge to fit... but he also mensioned that a option may be to try and find shorter heads and try and keep the efficiency.

is this a option or was he prob just having me on...
if it gets too hard i think im gonna go with the 351 injected crate motor..

 

 

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393 xe ghia stage 5 als raceglides c4,9" full spool 31spline moser axles. Will be looking at running high 9s low 10's

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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:37 pm 
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Gotta love the size difference between the new and the old 8's

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