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 Post subject: 98 EL XR8 sometime start problem
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:29 pm 
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hay all newbie here

i got myself a 98 EL XR8

now sometimes it struggles to start for example it goes

tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick etc etc etc etc

now for a 2nd attempt maybe tick once then start...

now i dont have that much mech knowledge

i have looked at battery seems fine/its got new leads and plugs

could it be i need a new coil/dizzy or maybe a starter motor...

it doesnt do it all the time.. it might just start after 1 or 2 ticks for 3 days then one day it might take 3-4 goes to get it to start. mmmmmmm

any ideas ???? :?

 

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 Post subject: Re: 98 EL XR8 sometime start problem
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:10 pm 
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LOL, hard to say with that description but perhaps the battery is not pumping out enough current or the starter motor may be struggling.

 

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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:16 pm 
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forgot to add this open happened when i put a sub and amp in my car ....

 

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 Post subject: Re: 98 EL XR8 sometime start problem
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:34 pm 
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I'd say the battery is on its way out

 

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 Post subject: Re: 98 EL XR8 sometime start problem
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:26 pm 
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same thing happened with my old XF but it never started first time lol all i did was turn it over a couple of times turn the ignition off and tried again. worked second time every time haha :)
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:08 pm 
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and what was it ????


we put volt gauge on the battery and alternator and both are getting a good reading... sounds like its going to be a starter motor...

 

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 Post subject: Re: 98 EL XR8 sometime start problem
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:45 pm 
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While you're thinking about the starter motor, check that all the leads are securely plugged into the starter motor properly as that may be a reason for the starting problem.

 

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 Post subject: Re: 98 EL XR8 sometime start problem
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:01 pm 
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yeh shall do..

if its not the starter motor any other ideas ????

 

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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:16 pm 
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Sounds like low voltage to the starter solenoid causing it to make the ticking sound. What happens is the solenoid closes and sends power to the starter. The starter motor draws too much current and the voltage drops. This causes the solenoid to open. This then takes away the load from the starter so the solenoid now has enough power to close again. And the cycle repeats, and you get a fast clicking sound.

Now you need to find the cause of the low voltage. First I'd get a battery load test done by a sparkie, and have him check the alternator output at the same time. If the battery and alternator is OK, it's probably the starter motor. Could also be a bad earth or battery cables.

 

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 Post subject: Re: 98 EL XR8 sometime start problem
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:47 pm 
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cheers mate i will look at local sparkies now cheers...

 

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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:16 pm 
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My guess is starter relay.
Swap it with one of the other sames ones and see if it still does it.

 

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 Post subject: Re: 98 EL XR8 sometime start problem
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:03 am 
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ok sorry about the miss interpretation..

the motor has not been ticking its been cranking but not firing...

now i just went to local mech shop we tested electrical system and all is good and we checked the fuel system all is good... the bloke said to me WATCH OUT FOR THE SMART LOCK...

i was like ohhh ok

NO IDEA WHAT HE IS OPEN ABOUT BUT OK

 

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 Post subject: Re: 98 EL XR8 sometime start problem
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:11 pm 
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also the idle is now fuked..

its running at 500rpm at idle and has stalled on me a few times....

i bought some throttle body cleaner and tried that but its still stalling...

could it be throttle body sensor switch ????

 

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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:32 pm 
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Perhaps the ISC needs a look at or maybe you've knocked the MAF plug off??

 

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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:35 pm 
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