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 Post subject: BA 260 boss 5.4L
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:59 pm 
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ok this is a dumb question but I am going to ask it anyway is the BA 5.4L motor the the same rear bolt pattern as the Windsor earlier models or is it different? and if so how much different.
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 Post subject: Re: BA 260 boss 5.4L
Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:53 pm 
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It's not a great deal different. Scroll down in this thread and find where I've overlaid a smallblock sandwich plate over a modular genset bellhousing and you'll see the differences...
ford-v8-f2/6-8-modular-t63811.html?hilit=modular%20bolt%20pattern
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 Post subject: Re: BA 260 boss 5.4L
Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:38 pm 
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Ok so I checked the post it looks good from my angle I'm just not sure if the dellows adaptor will bolt up to it with out much hassel? what about the starter motor would I use the old school starter or the ford BA one in the old style bell housing? pluse there are the small things like a machined flywheel to fit my box I have one for the 5L I wonder if it will fit the BA? Any ideas on that one?
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:47 pm 
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Hey bud - just wondering why your asking? Project car or something? Sorry mate just peaked my interest . . .
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 Post subject: Re: BA 260 boss 5.4L
Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:08 pm 
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yeah mate got a little project i"m working on trying to wack a new motor(efi) v8 into an old school 4x4 and cause I love fords I thought it would be fitting to try and put one in it.
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 Post subject: Re: BA 260 boss 5.4L
Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:10 pm 
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Sounds interesting - have you got a build thread yet?
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 Post subject: Re: BA 260 boss 5.4L
Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:48 pm 
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not yet but I'm about to purchase a BA XR8 5.4 motor lock stock and barrel I have a 5L out of a XH ute with the 4 speed but the Patrol's bay is really big and I wanted to fill it up/lol. Pluse the 260KW as opposed to the claimed 185kw will be better low down torque as have read in previous posts but this all hinges on the fact I need the 5.4 to be able to mat up to the dellows converter houseing I have!
I will stick some pics up soon just so people can have a look at what a ford can do in other applications..!
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 Post subject: Re: BA 260 boss 5.4L
Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:43 pm 
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The 5L has more down low torque by far over the 5.4 quad cam.

 

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 Post subject: Re: BA 260 boss 5.4L
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:39 pm 
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The 5L has more down low torque by far over the 5.4 quad cam.

is that right How did you come to that conclusion? as I'm interested in some figures to see?
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:56 pm 
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Yes it is correct....in a 4WD I'd use a 3V engine. A 3V V10! :D
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 Post subject: Re: BA 260 boss 5.4L
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:54 pm 
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I was always under the impression that there is no subsistute for Cubic inches! LOL
the bigger the engin the more low down torque? Please correct me if I am wrong?
but anyway I guess I'll just have to see witch one gives me less hassles to jam in the bay....
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:43 pm 
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madmanMQ wrote:
The 5L has more down low torque by far over the 5.4 quad cam.

is that right How did you come to that conclusion? as I'm interested in some figures to see?


I thought the BOSS motors had bucketloads of low down torque?

 

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 Post subject: Re: BA 260 boss 5.4L
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 5:09 pm 
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Nope.
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 5:42 pm 
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sd1800 wrote:
madmanMQ wrote:
The 5L has more down low torque by far over the 5.4 quad cam.

is that right How did you come to that conclusion? as I'm interested in some figures to see?


I thought the BOSS motors had bucketloads of low down torque?


The Boss motor is very peaky due to the head design, and the cams used.

 

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 Post subject: Re: BA 260 boss 5.4L
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:44 pm 
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ok well by next weekend I'll have the two motors sitting on my garage floor oh and i'll have a super charger for the 5.4 as well! so there will be some measuring and scratching of the head as to witch one I stick in. I've seen that there is a lot more work to get all the useable ponies out of the 5L and I have that allready with the 5.4. remember that this is going through a 5 speed and a transfer case. Plus I'm running 4.6/1 diff lockers? see attached specs..
so I'm gunna have to do some maths to see whats best option?

 

 

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