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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:20 pm 
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Hey guys i want to buy a XD - XF? with an 8 just to pull apart and teach myself some s**t. just wondering what would be the best engine for me..? all i know is how to change oil/filters fuel pump spark plugs basic service s**t. haven't even taken a rocker cover of...

Dont want EFI... In the Next Year or so i want to buy a ZA Fairlane to do up... just want to break a P.O.S engine before i play with a expensive one...

wouldnt really want to spend over $500 on the car not planing on getting it roadworthy or anything... just drivable

 

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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:26 pm 
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even ik i was to get a 250 crossflow would i learn much from that...?

 

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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:14 pm 
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buy a za fairlane and a max ellery vehicle repair manual and away you go :)

 

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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:42 pm 
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Take the Max Ellery book and chuck it in the bin, Gergory's is a lot more accurate. :)

I'd suggest a Clevo, you can't really get much easier than that... timing marks go dot to dot, con rods are numbered, arrows cast in pointing which way is front etc...

 

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:34 am 
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Chuck both the max ellery and the gregorys in the bin and get a genuine Ford manual.
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:07 pm 
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XR9UTE wrote:
Chuck both the max ellery and the gregorys in the bin and get a genuine Ford manual.


I'll second that. I have factory manuals for every Ford I have ever owned.

Get a crappy X series sedan with a f**k 302 clevo. That wont break the bank. It's exactly the same as the 351 (cept crank and rods) and you can learn on that.

Or, just go and buy a 302C from the wrecker or the dozen people on here that i am sure would have one that will never be used. There are heaps around and in non rebuilt form they are virtually worthless. Be suprised if you blow more than $200. It's a pity your not in SA, as I am giving away a 302W (roller lifter EFI block).

 

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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:36 am 
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Even the EFi early E series 6s are easy to work on, especially the EA 3.9CPi, what ever you do do not touch an EFI 5.0 Windsor, jesus putting a cam in 1 was a major mission (especially when 3 mates help you pull it apart and are no where to be seen when you have to put it together).

250 cross flow is good to learn on, not a massive difference to a 302, it all works similar but in different places. When you have the motor in pieces talk to a machinist, get them to show you how to mic up the bores, crank and cam, all good stuff to learn. Some really interesting things to research are cam timing (playing with cam gears with different number of teeth) and porting/polishing.

Max elerys books are absolutely useless, i found that 1 out at midnight with a car in 2 million pieces.
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:25 am 
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I learnt heaps by pulling apart a 3.9 cpi 6. I have also partially pulled apart an ecotech engine but found it to be a bit of a pain.

 

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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:48 pm 
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Go the Cleveland !!! A nice XD or XE even with the good old 302 c.The 302 clevo can always be made into a 351 (or 393 or 408 etc) with a crank and rod change, you can build the engine up for that fairlane u want or just take apart and do a standard rebuild of the 302 ,choice is yours...Vito.

 

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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:59 pm 
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Actually a 5.0L or 5.8L or 7.5L EFI engine is just as easy as any of the others. It's just a f**k intake for chrissake!
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:25 pm 
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How about a single cylinder Briggs & Stratton...................lol

 

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