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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:44 pm 
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I was thinking about removing teh EFI on my 5 Litre Winsdor motor and turning it into a carby setup. Other option is pissing the engine off and dropping an engine in already with a carby setup. I'm after some advicewfrom anyone who has converted their EFi to carby or anyone who knows a little on the subject on an major unexpected problems they faced and how their car currently runs.
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:47 pm 
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to actualy make the engine run, all you need is a carby, a manifold and a dizzy.

i'd be using a holley 600vac you'll get away with a 650dp if you have a manual trans, and that id use a 650 HP STREET
an edelbrock RPM airgap manifold P.N. 7521
and msd dizzy. with or without a CDI

you can get cheaper electronic dizzys for them but make sure you buy a decent one, nardek do a nice one with bocsh module and pickup.

as to it effecting the rest of the car, well thats up to some one els to answer

 

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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:10 pm 
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You can just change the intake and use the stock TFI distributor with a programmable ignition kit from the likes of Jaycar. I did just that with my cleveland and then took it off when I put the EFI on it.
Or you can leave the EEC to control the ignition if you use a carb bonnet and let it breathe through the MAF.
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:31 pm 
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XR9UTE wrote:
You can just change the intake and use the stock TFI distributor with a programmable ignition kit from the likes of Jaycar. I did just that with my cleveland and then took it off when I put the EFI on it.
Or you can leave the EEC to control the ignition if you use a carb bonnet and let it breathe through the MAF.



learn something everyday. so i guess you could use a blow through adapter from the likes of naparts and run the stock airbox and maf location.

 

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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:31 am 
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Thanks for the advice guys

 

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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:46 pm 
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Why go to a carby when EFI will give you better all round performance?

Oh yeah, it won't be emissions compliant for that model and therefore, road legal...

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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:50 pm 
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The car is a project and not a daily. I want something a bit different, something that you don't see all too often. If I wanted better performance I wouldn't have bought a 5 litre EL. There is nothing that speaks tough then a heavily worked lumpy carby engine, it doesn't have to be quick, just a tough streeter.

 

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is this what your trying to achieve
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and yes it can be done , i have adapted the TPS to the holley base plate ( still running auto ) also to run the timing aswell .

 

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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:39 pm 
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Yes thats it, how does she run? Why did you choose to do it?

 

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The car is a project and not a daily. I want something a bit different, something that you don't see all too often. If I wanted better performance I wouldn't have bought a 5 litre EL. There is nothing that speaks tough then a heavily worked lumpy carby engine, it doesn't have to be quick, just a tough streeter.


If it's just to be "different" then don't do it!
If you want to be different I have V10 you can use.
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Be aware you will still need a TPS signal for the Auto to work
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manual only need 1 tps for dissy / smartlock

 

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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:54 pm 
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Last night i was flipping through a friends street commodores magazine and i seen an interesting VR with air filter through the bonnet, which is the old school look im after. I read on and realised that it wasn't Carby, but had a 100cfm Fuel injection throttle body sitting atop a harrop engineering single plane manifold. The manifold was match-ported and polished with a custom adaptor plate allowing the mating of the manifold and throttle body. I though maybe this may be a more practical concept rather then convert to carby as that way i can still keep my EFI but get the old school look. One problem i can see is the MAF? has anyone seen this done on EFI Winsdor?

 

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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:54 am 
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you can delete the maf.. need to be running aftermarket ecu tho.. tuned in alpha-n
thats what im running on mine (8 throttle body setup) however if you can still include the maf it will make tuning much more simple..


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you can also get maf's that fit over the TB, a friend of mine was looking to do it on his clevo, its pricey, but it can be done

 

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