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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:55 pm 
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Hey guys i have a 6 currently in my car which is running great but i have recently gotten my hands on a 96 LTD 5.0L and wanna change the engine, tranny, maybe diff if needed? and anything else

Just wanna ask if anyone has done this and if i could get sum tips on what needs changing?

i got the 5.0L LTD for nothing, i have the whole car in perfect condition and wanna put the running gear in mine but obviously the drive shaft is longer so that wont be going anywhere

but i wanna know exactly what needs doing

if any1 has done this or knows a bit about it could u help me out

and if i have things left over that i dont want like the boot, bonnet, and other bits n pieces let me know if any1 is interested in some parts

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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:26 pm 
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Just strip the engine bay completely and replace all the stuff with the V8 gear. At a minimum you will need to change the engine with all the wiring and computer and transmission. Also a good idea to change the suspension over (springs only as far as I am aware), you can reuse your tailshaft and diff if you want but you will probably find the V8 diff is LSD and your 6cyl one may not be.

Its a big job, normally I would just say sell your 6cyl and buy a V8 but seeing you got the V8 LTD for nothing it is probably worth it.
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:00 am 
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thats y im looking at doing it coz i got everything apart from the interior free

i can take wat ever i want off the rest of the car

i dunno if you guys would know...
would the LTD diff fit ok onto my car?
engine-wise i know i gotta change the mounts and suspension, transmission, exhaust, i dunno about the radiator or fans... computer i know but where is the computer that controls the engine?
what about the fuel pump? is it different for V8's?
coz i just bought a new fuel pumpfor mine 10 months ago

replacing everything isnt a problem coz my dad used to be a mechanic but ever since a lot of the cars are controlled electronically he cant do much coz he stopped that work in mid 80's

sorry i havent looked into it at all thats y i need a lot of questions answered
i just found out yesterday that he doesnt want it anymore
so i wanna jump on the idea
it would also help with the value of the car

 

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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:19 am 
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The computer (ECU) is behind the kick panel in front front on the passenger side.. under the dash where the feet are. The diff will fit fine, difference been that V8 diffs are stronger, and it should have 3.27 gearing. The springs will definately need changing as the V8 ones are taller, and also the auto's need a seperate transmission controller computer... whatever its called. So you'll need to run wiring for that aswell.


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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:58 pm 
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thermo's & the fuel pump should be sweet as they are the SAME

 

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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 11:23 am 
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The V8 diff ratio are 3:45

Have a chat to ovo616 as he is currently doing the same conversion

 

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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 1:03 pm 
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offyaguts wrote:
The V8 diff ratio are 3:45

Have a chat to ovo616 as he is currently doing the same conversion

I think you will find that only the EL 2 xr8's came with 3:45 ratio's
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 1:35 pm 
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I believe that all the auto EL Fairmont Ghias came with 3.45 diffs.

 

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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:52 pm 
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All Ltd's had a 3.23 LSD

3.45 Lsd was fitted To fairmont ghia, concorde fairlanes, FBT, XR's
Ford say that series 1 xr8's had a 3.23 but i have never seen one - they have all had 3.45

The conversion is a big job and with petrol prices id stay with the 6! :p
Not too bad just put the car up and drop teh k frame and auto with suspension attatched

 

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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:21 pm 
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humm that sounds easier (dropping the kframe) no trans fluid and crap pissing out all over the workshop floor
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EL fairmont ghia's did have 3.45, and Im pretty sure that 3.23 was for the i6's, and the 3.27 were the V8's. Could be wrong.


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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:19 pm 
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No the I6 Fairmont Ghias were also factory fitted with the 3.45 diff.

 

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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:08 pm 
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justfordima wrote:
EL fairmont ghia's did have 3.45, and Im pretty sure that 3.23 was for the i6's, and the 3.27 were the V8's. Could be wrong.

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All EL Ghias (regardless of V8 / I6) got the 3.45 LSD standard...3.27 final ratios regardless of LSD factor were used in earlier E-Series AFAIK.

PS, What colour is your DL LTD ? :)

 

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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 7:01 pm 
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I could be interested in a few of the panels I have a nl fairlane.

PM me or post your number alternativly sms or ring me on 0402 147 151

 

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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:19 pm 
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not 2 sure now guys

coz my dad CBF helping coz he says 'waste of money & time'

and i really dont wanna pay any1 2 do it coz the money i have is all going to exterior work and i dont wanna muck it up myself

so the idea is gonna be on hold 4 a bit
thanx 4 the input though

 

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