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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:31 pm 
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well after i replaced my timing cover and waterpump the thing leaked more than ever so i cracked the s**t and went to book it in at fords(only place to go here :( ) so they can fix it cos i thaught i must have stuffed the gasket or something but while i was there going through there huge workshop manual i found all the torque settings were heaps diferent. the max ellery manual was 5 or 6nm below fords spec on all timing cover and waterpump bolts and 5 or 6nm above ford spec on other bolts so after doing all bolts up to the ford spec it hardly leaks but now the gasket is stuffed and its all gota be done again :twisted: just posting this so others dont have to find out the hard way

 

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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:37 pm 
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i found gregorys to be better.
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:48 pm 
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You actually used the torque settings for the timing cover/water pump?!

Torque wrenches come in a box.... cos no-one uses them! (ok its cos they're sensitive)

what happened to 'do it tight.... but not too tight'?

 

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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:01 pm 
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lol so far the only torwue settings i have seen used are head bolts.
the others are probably through experience tightness

 

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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:08 pm 
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[quote="Krytox"]You actually used the torque settings for the timing cover/water pump?!

Torque wrenches come in a box.... cos no-one uses them! (ok its cos they're sensitive)

what happened to 'do it tight.... but not too tight'?[/quote

this was the first time ive pulled bits like that off a engine so i thaught id follow the manual and i was real paranoid about snaping bolts cos i had to use the old ones.

 

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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:44 pm 
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i have found that nothing compares to the genuine ford shop manuels

 

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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:46 pm 
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sexyr6 wrote:
i have found that nothing compares to the genuine ford shop manuels


if you can afford / justify the expense

 

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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:46 pm 
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It is an art to do up bolts without a tension wrench, it takes time & experience.

 

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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:52 pm 
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I recently picked up a genuine EF/EL manuel 2 volumes on good ol ebay for less that $100(delivered) i placed a want it now ad and within a couple of days i had a responce...[/quote]

 

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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:00 pm 
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Krytox wrote:
You actually used the torque settings for the timing cover/water pump?!

Torque wrenches come in a box.... cos no-one uses them! (ok its cos they're sensitive)

what happened to 'do it tight.... but not too tight'?


I torque everything, including my spark plugs! :-(

 

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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:03 pm 
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sexyr6 wrote:
Leroy Wrote
if you can afford / justify the expense



I recently picked up a genuine EF/EL manuel 2 volumes on good ol ebay for less that $100(delivered) i placed a want it now ad and within a couple of days i had a responce...
[/quote]

Likewise, I picked up the original EF one for about $80.00. Mines only an EF so didn't need the later information, although if I ever got the chance I'd upgrade just so I have it...

 

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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:08 pm 
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twr7cx wrote:
Krytox wrote:
You actually used the torque settings for the timing cover/water pump?!

Torque wrenches come in a box.... cos no-one uses them! (ok its cos they're sensitive)

what happened to 'do it tight.... but not too tight'?


I torque everything, including my spark plugs! :-(

i use my torque wrench it,s called two grunt,s and a groan always work,s for me
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