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 Post subject: EB V8 - Help needed
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:20 pm 
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ok....im in the process of collecting some top end imrovements for my engine..now all the shops i speak to say that its not gonna run properly coz the ECU cant be set up to run with the mods...now they say EF/L ECU's are ok, but they have never had an EB that was running sweet..has any one got around this problem....
wat are my options...????
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:52 pm 
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Generally the EB/ED EEC's cope slightly better with mods compared with the EF/EL ones. Unless you are going for a fairly aggressive cam then you won't have a problem with the stock EEC IMO, what mods are you doing? But if you want the absolute best performance or you are going for a very big cam, you will want a custom tune. With the EB/ED's you have the option of the Tweecer which IMO is the best option, otherwise you can look at a chiptorque or unichip.
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:02 pm 
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i was looking at edelbrock intake, alloy heads (not sure which ones yet) mild cam - 530 lift & 286 duration, 70mm t/b & bigger MAF.....was gonna build this top end now then do a 347 bottom end at the end of the year....how do u reckon the ECU will cope
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:18 pm 
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It should be fine IMO, as long as the 50th duration not much more than 220-224deg (maybe a bit more for a 347ci). However, if you are going to the expense of the 347ci, you should really invest in a custom tune at some point, and as I said the tweecer would be an excellent option for you IMO.
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:24 pm 
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EDXR8 wrote:
It should be fine IMO, as long as the 50th duration not much more than 220-224deg (maybe a bit more for a 347ci). However, if you are going to the expense of the 347ci, you should really invest in a custom tune at some point, and as I said the tweecer would be an excellent option for you IMO.

yea the 50th duration is 216....ok..thats cool..as long as i know that i can get a tune for it, coz alot of shops are saying theres no option, except like a Haltech, and even then theres no garauntees...are u speaking from experience????
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:47 pm 
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yea the 50th duration is 216....ok..thats cool..as long as i know that i can get a tune for it, coz alot of shops are saying theres no option, except like a Haltech, and even then theres no garauntees...are u speaking from experience????


Yeah they either haven't done many Ford V8 EECIV/V's so don't know, or are just trying to make some extra $$$$.

Personally I have run a number of engines with more aggressive cams on the stock EEC without any major issues (I do have a tweecer now but still haven't touched the idle yet), and know of many others who have done the same. With a tweecer you can run almost any combo, there are numerous people in the US running 10sec 1/4 mile cars with the EECIV and a tweecer or custom chip.
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:55 pm 
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you spoke to A1 Performance then? that what they told me..

if your cam is mild you'l be fine.. considering theres a bunch of EEC4(eb/ed) 347s gettin around i wouldnt worry too much..

 

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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:04 pm 
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you spoke to A1 Performance then? that what they told me..

if your cam is mild you'l be fine.. considering theres a bunch of EEC4(eb/ed) 347s gettin around i wouldnt worry too much..

spot on clampy..thats who i was talkin to....cool....so who does TWEeCeR in WA ???
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:28 pm 
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Ive got a 5.0ltr with cam 50th duration figures of int 224,ex 232 lift int 542,ex 563 with stock EF ECU and chiptorque chip custom tune.Idles really good and 168rwkw with a dodgy stall.2800 stall being put in soon.

 

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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:29 pm 
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veeate wrote:
spot on clampy..thats who i was talkin to....cool....so who does TWEeCeR in WA ???


You are in luck, the only tweecer tuners I know of are in WA. Talk to Pete at PIE (http://www.icenet.com.au/~pie/) or Batterns (http://www.norcom.net.au/~bpt/) for tweecer or any other ford info.
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:47 am 
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veeate wrote:
ok....im in the process of collecting some top end imrovements for my engine..now all the shops i speak to say that its not gonna run properly coz the ECU cant be set up to run with the mods...now they say EF/L ECU's are ok, but they have never had an EB that was running sweet..has any one got around this problem....
wat are my options...????


I have a microtech in mine. It works sweet with big cam, heads done etc.

Plus I have it running with no air flow metre at all, thats gotta help.

Cost me a fair bit, just plug in and tune.

 

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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:01 pm 
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wat did the microtech cost u...as pissing off the MAF will save me a few hundred $$$.....although i have sourced guys that can do the twEECer so i might stick with it....but wats the mocrotech worth anyways
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 9:49 am 
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Microtech cost me $1500 brand new. I can use it on other fords later on so thats why i bought it. No MAF sensor required.

I have a pretty big cam so needed the computer done. Keeps it running well.

 

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