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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:49 am 
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Hey fellow ford modders....

Been doing a bit of searching for this answer i'm looking for, but can't find it.

Steering racks - 6cylinder ED & V8 EB - do they differ or are they the same rack - just different steel power steering hoses?

I've got a buggered v8 rack here in a EB s1 XR8 and was wondering if i can swap in my spare 6cyl rack or not, what's the go?

I have worked out the 6cyl radiator works, altho the v8 apparently has more fins in the core than the 6cyl. With thermo fans i don't think it will any issue.

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 Post subject: Re: EB XR8 - Steering rack question
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:20 pm 
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Doesn't anyone know?

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 Post subject: Re: EB XR8 - Steering rack question
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:14 pm 
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Don't quote me on this its has been along time since ive changed the rack, but i think the only difference was variable rack which was the fairlane ghia stuff was different. Finger light steering or not and the racks was interchangeble bettween 6 & 8?

Look for pressure switch on the rack i think that was the only difference? look at the pipe angles too!

 

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 Post subject: Re: EB XR8 - Steering rack question
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Don't quote me on this its has been along time since ive changed the rack, but i think the only difference was variable rack which was the fairlane ghia stuff was different. Finger light steering or not and the racks was interchangeble bettween 6 & 8?

Look for pressure switch on the rack i think that was the only difference? look at the pipe angles too!


After a lot of digging around it would seem the racks are the same except i think the V8 doesn't have the idle up switch on it. I've gotta get under & have a good look at the racks to compare. I know the pipes are different, and that's no issue as i have 1 set of each, 6 & 8. I was just hoping to use the rack out of my ED 6cyl to fix the Xr8's busted rack.....

Thanks for the help dude.

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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:28 pm 
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ToranaGuy wrote:
DR327VK wrote:
Don't quote me on this its has been along time since ive changed the rack, but i think the only difference was variable rack which was the fairlane ghia stuff was different. Finger light steering or not and the racks was interchangeble bettween 6 & 8?

Look for pressure switch on the rack i think that was the only difference? look at the pipe angles too!


After a lot of digging around it would seem the racks are the same except i think the V8 doesn't have the idle up switch on it. I've gotta get under & have a good look at the racks to compare. I know the pipes are different, and that's no issue as i have 1 set of each, 6 & 8. I was just hoping to use the rack out of my ED 6cyl to fix the Xr8's busted rack.....

Thanks for the help dude.

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You can use an I6 rack in a V8, they just have the pressure switch in the 6, not the V8.

 

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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:21 pm 
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My understanding is that the racks ARE DIFFERENT. I believe the high and low pressure hoses enter the rack from a different location/direction to provide clearance for the headers.

A quick inspection of both rack types would verify this.

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 Post subject: Re: EB XR8 - Steering rack question
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:36 pm 
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BenJ wrote:
My understanding is that the racks ARE DIFFERENT. I believe the high and low pressure hoses enter the rack from a different location/direction to provide clearance for the headers.

A quick inspection of both rack types would verify this.

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That's what i've been told, but i've also been told & read that they will fit & work. As per 67RCE's comment. The car has extractors in it that gives a little more clearance around the rack, so i might be ok. Was hoping to get the anser before having to pull both racks out of the cars. Not a job i really love to do! Ah well, I'll be pulling the racks out soon, worst case I'll have to pull the rack from the other Xr8 to get the white one thru rwc. Red one won't need it's rack for a while yet.

67RCE -> I take it you have to leave the switch in or does the v8 rack have a blanking plug/plate i can fit onto the 6cyl rack?

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ToranaGuy wrote:
BenJ wrote:
My understanding is that the racks ARE DIFFERENT. I believe the high and low pressure hoses enter the rack from a different location/direction to provide clearance for the headers.

A quick inspection of both rack types would verify this.

Cheers
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That's what i've been told, but i've also been told & read that they will fit & work. As per 67RCE's comment. The car has extractors in it that gives a little more clearance around the rack, so i might be ok. Was hoping to get the anser before having to pull both racks out of the cars. Not a job i really love to do! Ah well, I'll be pulling the racks out soon, worst case I'll have to pull the rack from the other Xr8 to get the white one thru rwc. Red one won't need it's rack for a while yet.

67RCE -> I take it you have to leave the switch in or does the v8 rack have a blanking plug/plate i can fit onto the 6cyl rack?

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ToranaGuy

Switch stays in but doesn't get connected. My old ED XR6 had a modified V8 rack in it without the switch, so they do go the other way

 

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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:16 am 
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67RCE wrote:
Switch stays in but doesn't get connected. My old ED XR6 had a modified V8 rack in it without the switch, so they do go the other way


Brilliant news. Thanks for that. I'll be swapping the rack from the ED 6cyl into the EB very soon. :D

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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:58 am 
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ToranaGuy wrote:
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Switch stays in but doesn't get connected. My old ED XR6 had a modified V8 rack in it without the switch, so they do go the other way


Brilliant news. Thanks for that. I'll be swapping the rack from the ED 6cyl into the EB very soon. :D

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keep us up to date on how you go mate, a couple pics to show any differences wouldnt hurt either

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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:25 pm 
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ToranaGuy wrote:
67RCE wrote:
Switch stays in but doesn't get connected. My old ED XR6 had a modified V8 rack in it without the switch, so they do go the other way


Brilliant news. Thanks for that. I'll be swapping the rack from the ED 6cyl into the EB very soon. :D

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keep us up to date on how you go mate, a couple pics to show any differences wouldnt hurt either

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I plan on taking some pics, just so anyone else that asks will have photo evidence one way or the other lol.

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 Post subject: Re: EB XR8 - Steering rack question
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:10 pm 
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Here is the evidence - pics of the racks. 6cyl has the switch in it. v8 doesn't.

They are the same aside the switch. After being under the Xr8, i'm not sure if the switch will clear the extractors or not, so i'm going to remove it & plug it up. I have something that will plug the hole, so i should be right.

I've not long pulled the v8 one out, had to cut down a 19mm spanner to get the power steer lines undone. :( I'll have to go buy a spanner tomorrow, it's a size i seem to use a lot. Time to grab a quick bite to eat & then remove the 6cyl switch, plug it up & refit the rack.

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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:32 pm 
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by the looks of the rack head you may find the steering heavier but looks like it may fit. Hope you didnt go to all this trouble just over the rack boot!

 

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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:53 pm 
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by the looks of the rack head you may find the steering heavier but looks like it may fit. Hope you didnt go to all this trouble just over the rack boot!


If it's a bit heavier i don't really care atm, car only has std 205's on it, and i'm saving a lot on a v8 rack.

Take a look at the left end on the v8 rack, it's BENT. Worse than it looks in the photos. :(

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 Post subject: Re: EB XR8 - Steering rack question
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:57 pm 
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yeah i see the bend now you point it out. Let us know the difference.

 

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