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Arent summit and jegs in america?
I dont have loads of cash to import stuff. Jeff i was only doing the oil pump as insurance along with a rering/bearings. You can get complete rebuild kits made by precision for 700 in perth thats why i cant justify 400 for rings alone. I feel like i have been burnt because i tried to use factory parts  haha nah its just because im poor.
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green car wrote: Arent summit and jegs in america? I dont have loads of cash to import stuff. Shannon, you don't need loads of cash to import stuff. Have you checked out the Summit site and had a look at their prices? Even with freight and the packaging fee ($25), you can buy just about anything from there considerably cheaper than what you can here. It's where I get all my parts from and it takes a week, max, to get here. Here's a link or 2 for you. Check them out, see if you can find what you are looking for, then go to www.xe.com to do the $ conversion from US to AUS, where you will see what the part's going to cost you. Give them a call after 9pm and they'll be able to give you a quote for freight straight away too. Oil Pumps - http://www.summitracing.com/search/Make ... ump%20ford Rings - http://www.summitracing.com/search/Part ... on%20rings - you'll have to know exactly what you're looking for there, which I'm sure you would. It's just a matter of selecting the right options from the left side of the page. I think you'll be pleased to see that they won't cost you $400!!! I hope this helps. If you'd have wanted to do this last week, you could have chucked it in with my order.
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The oil pump is the same. Mellings M68 from memory. For rings, give ACL a call. They offer a suitable set from Mahle. An alternative that I haven't verified personally is Hastings 2M4726 which is also listed for the shallow top ring groove.
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I had a look on summit last night but had a hard time finding stuff
im not very good with computers.It almost sounds like a plan if i only knew what rings to order???
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xafalcon wrote: The oil pump is the same. Mellings M68 from memory. For rings, give ACL a call. They offer a suitable set from Mahle. An alternative that I haven't verified personally is Hastings 2M4726 which is also listed for the shallow top ring groove. Is the difference between eb-el pistons and au pistons a shallow top ring groove?
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I'm sure someone on here could have a look, who knows which rings you would need, and tell you the part number and possibly post the link to them. Jeff might be able to tell you?
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did some research and got the au motor specs from ford,
they were almost identical except for a couple of things eb v8 ring groove widths comp ring upper 1.524-1.549 comp ring lower 1.524-1.549mm oil ring 4.031-4.056mm comp ring upper ring width 1.466-1.491mm side clearance 0.051-0.102mm gap 0.254-0.508mm second ring is the same specs now the au specs ring groove widths top ring 1.524-1.549mm 2nd ring 1.524-1.549mm oil ring 4.031-4.065mm different slightly top ring ring width 1.466-1.491mm side clearance 0.33-0.84mm different gap .254-.508mm 2nd ring width 1.466-1.491mm side clearance 0.33-0.84mm different gap 0.457 -.0711mm different
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form what i can ascertain the comp rings are wider and the second ring has a bigger ring gap, not much difference.
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Ive decided to hold off on the rebuild until i get my old motor out, im %100 sure i can get parts for that
 and the parts are listed,and i can get them from down the road  Thanks alot for everyones help
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Sounds like a plan if you are unsure. What you going to do with the AU short block then?
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If it goes alright ill just keep the au motor in the eb until my eb 5.0 bottom end is rebuilt, and then ill sell the au bottom end.
Could be a while but... depending on funds  because i want it done properly, and i only want to build it once 
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Sounds the goods. Have it ready before the end of this next drag season!
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There were 3 different pistons used in the V8's from EB1 to AU3. The first was the TRW which uses a fairly standard metric ring pack EB1 - EB2. After that Ford used two different combinations of shallow top and shallow oil ring grooves EB2 - EL, EL/AU1 - AU3. The changes did not coincide with vehicle model changes, so it's a lucky dip when you open up an EB2 or EL V8 as to what you will need. Easy eh?
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Of course there's an easy way to fix all this....
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Get a dart block with 4.125" bores and a set of pistons which you will know the ring groove sizes on?
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