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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:19 am 
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Hi there..

I need a better manifold than my factory 5.0lt for my ED
and was wondering what rev range the explorer manifolds are good for?

I was loooking at the Edelbrock RPM 1500-6500 range but at $1200
that is out of my budget so I thought I would aska bout the explorer manifolds..

Any idea on how much to get the manifold port matched and ported a bit more?

Thanks in advance
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:15 am 
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$1200!? from where? that's too much!
What rev range do you need?
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:41 pm 
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Well, autobahn quoted $1200 with ten weeks wait or extra $100 for 3-5 delivery..

Superformance quoted $1260 within 3 days delivery..

The motor has been rebuilt by prev owner with custom crane roller cam and lumpy pistons ect
but the standard manifold is holding it back as it struggles at 5000rpm..

So I was thinking the 1500-6500rpm range would be best suited for me..The car is for street use not drag..Thanks in advance..
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:16 pm 
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I think you'll be wanting a Performer RPMII or Performer...
Performer RPM is a short runner upper I'm fairly sure, more in common with the Victor?

Also I recommend firing an email direct to Rocket (who Autobarn are most likely going through) and also VPW for some pricing.
They are usually pretty quick in replying.

 

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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:24 pm 
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An RPM2 is not like a Victor...the victor has much bigger ports.
A lumpy cam and lumpy pistons is not what I call a description that has any meaning.

I asked VPW about some FE edelbrock heads they have listed so asked if they had any in stock and their response....."we don't sell edlebrock anymore"....my response: TAKE IT OFF YOUR f**k WEBSITE THEN!
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:29 pm 
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XR9UTE wrote:
A lumpy cam and lumpy pistons is not what I call a description that has any meaning.



I agree, I am still waiting to get the exact details from the engine builder..
I guess I was meaing to say that the engine wasn't standard and that is why I was looking for a better manifold.
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:43 pm 
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Here's an article on an intake comparison. It doesn't have the Edelbrock, but it shows the difference between the aftermarket and GT-40. If it's not for drags, then you're probably best going with the Explorer for a street application because it will give you much more torque, which is what you want on the street. You will barely ever go over 5500 when driving around normally. I'm pretty sure the Explorer and GT-40 are similar in performance.

http://www.musclemustangfastfords.com/t ... ndex1.html

Also, if you want to get the rpm II or performer, you can get it from Summit Racing for less than $1000 to your door. That's worked out at $200 shipping. The performer would be $50 cheaper. While locally, you should be able to pick up a second hand Explorer for around $500.

http://www.summitracing.com/search/Make ... 20manifold

Pete, the speed shops over east don't ever seem to update their websites. I think it's Pavtek who have Dart blocks advertised for $2500 and when I called them up about one the guy laughed at me and told me thóse prices are from years ago. I asked him whether he thought it was misleading advertising, and he said that they haven't gotten around to changing it yet.

 

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XR9UTE wrote:
An RPM2 is not like a Victor...the victor has much bigger ports.

Yeah I realise that, but the older Performer RPM, didn't that have the short runner style upper?
I checked Summit and they have Performer RPM (with no pic) listed for $1200(!!!!!!)

 

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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:44 pm 
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Steady ED wrote:
XR9UTE wrote:
An RPM2 is not like a Victor...the victor has much bigger ports.

Yeah I realise that, but the older Performer RPM, didn't that have the short runner style upper?
I checked Summit and they have Performer RPM (with no pic) listed for $1200(!!!!!!)


That's right. the older, not worth having, performer rpm, had just a shorter runner upper than the performer. The RPM 2 is much better but only if you need it? Do you mean $1200 U.S.!?!? Faaaarrrck!

Yeah Scaff, apparently false advertising is ok in their eyes!?
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:20 pm 
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Scaffy wrote:
I'm pretty sure the Explorer and GT-40 are similar in performance.

Yup, same dog ~ different balls. The Explorer can flow approx average of 175 cfm per sq inch and the GT40 / tubular can flow an approx average of 195 cfm per sq inch with the 93 cobra intake flowing a bee's d**k more at approx 200cfm. These are all stock averages flow figures ( no porting ).

 

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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:41 pm 
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Vic wrote:
Scaffy wrote:
I'm pretty sure the Explorer and GT-40 are similar in performance.

Yup, same dog ~ different balls. The Explorer can flow approx average of 175 cfm per sq inch and the GT40 / tubular can flow an approx average of 195 cfm per sq inch with the 93 cobra intake flowing a bee's d**k more at approx 200cfm. These are all stock averages flow figures ( no porting ).



Is the 93 Cobra intake the same as the XR8 SPRINT manifold? I have the Explorer and Sprint upper and lower manifolds and trying to find which would be better to install. I was going to install the Sprint upper and lower only for the ease of runner 5 with the AIT sensor. Any thoughts :?:

 

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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:57 pm 
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Vic wrote:
Scaffy wrote:
I'm pretty sure the Explorer and GT-40 are similar in performance.

Yup, same dog ~ different balls. The Explorer can flow approx average of 175 cfm per sq inch and the GT40 / tubular can flow an approx average of 195 cfm per sq inch with the 93 cobra intake flowing a bee's d**k more at approx 200cfm. These are all stock averages flow figures ( no porting ).


whats a HO manifold flow standard?
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:00 pm 
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lethal EA wrote:
Is the 93 Cobra intake the same as the XR8 SPRINT manifold?

Yes I believe so.


jaysway wrote:
whats a HO manifold flow standard?

Maybe 140cfm per sq inch. ( average flow )

 

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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:58 am 
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[quote="XR9UTE"] Do you mean $1200 U.S.!?!? Faaaarrrck!quote]

Actually, it's $1,268.39!!!

 

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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:31 pm 
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Let me know if you want an Explorer, i have one from an ELII 185kw here.

 

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