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 Post subject: How much fwhp do factory EF/EL windsor 5.0L blocks handle
Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:57 pm 
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Hey guys,

Ive heared that the 5.0L windsor blocks dont handle much power at the flywheel, EG 400hp. I looking into this as to see how far i can bush my standard block.

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All you want to know and more, with pics etc...
450- 500 dead set max at flywheel !!!

http://www.turbomustangs.com/techarticl ... kblock.php

 

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:24 pm 
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In the article it said 450rwhp for a reliable setup dude

Thanx for that :D

 

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In the article it said 450rwhp for a reliable setup dude

Thanx for that :D


You asked how much it would take at the flywheel...

 

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:37 pm 
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MICKYYYY wrote:
In the article it said 450rwhp for a reliable setup dude

Thanx for that :D


Remember the yanks also measure it a bit differently than most dynos here.

 

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You were also asking how far you can push it. They are examples of broken ones, so I am assuming you were chasing a "safe" power level, in which case 450-500hp @ the fly would be.

 

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Q: How much power can the stock block handle?
A: There are several answers to this, do you want a combo you never have to worry about, a semi-reliable combo, or a time-bomb / glory machine? For a reliable setup 450rwhp seems to be the limit, anything above that and you are asking for trouble. For a glory pass the stock blocks on turbomustangs.com have seen 600rwhp. You must also take into account RPM. Most guys on turbomustangs.com keep their turbo combos below 6000rpm. But if you are making 500rwhp and revving to 7000rpm it is a safe bet you will crack before the 6000rpm 550rwhp guy.

Read this part in particular
For a reliable setup 450rwhp seems to be the limit, anything above that and you are asking for trouble.

My translation to this means 450 rear wheel horse power, so add about an extra 100 hp with a auto behind it which would equal to 550 flywheel horse power.


If i made a mistake plz correct me :D

 

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How much are these Dart blocks worth?

 

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$2-3k. I can't remember exactly.

 

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How much are these Dart blocks worth?


Lots!!

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thats very interesting.. I'm glad I didn't bother buying expensive internals on my capri rebuild now. Esp as I'm only aiming for 300-400hp.

 

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So are the 351 windsor factory block better?

 

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EBXR8380 wrote:
All you want to know and more, with pics etc...
450- 500 dead set max at flywheel !!!

http://www.turbomustangs.com/techarticl ... kblock.php


just reading through that article and I know s**t all about V8's but apparently your dart block is indestructible, nice :)

 

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Those dart blocks weigh a lot more than the stock block too.

If you use a 351 block, you have to use a 351 crank, so you just have a 351 then as the deck heights are different too.
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