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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:38 pm 
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Ok... when i hit the key the starter is struggling, after maybe 3 seconds smoke is coming off it... Took the sparkplugs out of the engine thinking it mighta been too tight and it did make a difference but not much... Engine was taken out 6mths ago and starter was fine back then. Engine just had cometic gaskets installed, and auto / converter etc bolted back on and reinstalled in the bay? Any suggestions?
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:46 pm 
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Is it turning over at all?
Can you turn it over by hand?
Sounds like something is stuck.

 

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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:46 pm 
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sure the converters in the auto properly? if its not all the way in, it can jam on the pump gears causing that problem.

Have you tried a socket and bar on the harmonic balancer bolt and turn the motor by hand?
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:04 pm 
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i tried turning it by hand before the auto went on and it turned easy, its tricky turning it now coz the crossover pipe is in the way... ill go try that again...
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:20 pm 
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engine turns over REAL easy with a ratchet on the crank... admittedly no sparkplugs are in it, but i guess its not seized... any other ideas?
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:33 pm 
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jammed starter motor maybe?
bad battery cable / terminal / connection?
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:36 pm 
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the starter does turn....but slowly and is struggling. I just upgraded the earth...i have one battery cable bolted to my block and the other end to my chassis rail, its been done properly... do i need more? and if it was an earthing issue, would the starter smoke after 3 seconds?
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:22 pm 
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Easy, Remove the starter and bench test it.
Ive seen this issue before and it does happen that the windings in the starter breakdown suddenly. Especially if its been moist and not dryed by engine bay heat.

For 150 dollars I would slap in a new starter and give it a spin. Guarantee it will turn over and start.
Normally if a engine has seized when the starter engages it will dis-engage because the Ampers needed cant be provided and you will experiance the CLACKING noise of a flat battery.

Best way to test for jammed gearbox put it in netural and try to turn by hand with no sparkplugs in. you should beable to turn it over.
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:22 am 
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Thanks to everyone for your help! Finally got it going, the starter must be stuffed.... and i think the neighbours are unhappy at being woken up by a turbocharged windsor at 11.30 with no exhaust lol
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:49 am 
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Thanks to everyone for your help! Finally got it going, the starter must be stuffed.... and i think the neighbours are unhappy at being woken up by a turbocharged windsor at 11.30 with no exhaust lol


Hahaha...stuff the neighbours :P they can hear the whirring and clacking of your car. I'm sure after a while of trying to start the car, the neighbours were hoping the engine would start so that you would stop fiddling with it HAHAHA..

good on you for getting it working again =D

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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:26 am 
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BlownNc wrote:
Thanks to everyone for your help! Finally got it going, the starter must be stuffed.... and i think the neighbours are unhappy at being woken up by a turbocharged windsor at 11.30 with no exhaust lol


ahaha dont worry ur neighbours arent the only oes that'll be unhappy... mine are too at the moment, for the past week ive been starting the EA up with no exhaust at about 8am :P

 

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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:16 am 
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drop off a few packets of ear plugs to surrounding neighbours :lol: :lol:
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:34 pm 
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haha the neighbour looked over the fence this arvo trying to figure out what the loud whine was hahaha im in love
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:51 pm 
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got any photos of your setup ?
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:01 pm 
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this is from the weekend... ill post another when i can

 

 

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