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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:46 pm 
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Was at a mates place last night and he was telling me how he wants to put a carby clevo motor into an ed. thats all well and good, but i told him that he will need to change the k-frame to that of a V8. Anyway he calls s**t and says that there both the same.

i want to know is it physically possible to bolt up a clevo V8 to a 6 cyl k-frame. if not, why? and what ramifications is he looking at by hacking the s**t out of a 6cyl k-frame

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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:23 am 
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hack the sump - not the k frame .
k frame in a is different as they have different racks in them and the engine mount posi is also diff .

 

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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:52 am 
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There was a thread here a cpl of months back with an EA that had a Clevo in it.
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:05 pm 
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There was a thread here a cpl of months back with an EA that had a Clevo in it.


cool ill have a search for it. i just think that he is dellusional for trying to make it work with a 6cyl k frame. but then again it mayh not be that hard to do.

 

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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:25 am 
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It's not s**t. The K-frame is different but you can modify the six cyl one to take the V8 mounts. If you can find a V8 K-frame it's just less work plus you get to use the 5.0 engine mounts which are better than the old X-series type.

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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:01 pm 
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If you can find a V8 K-frame it's just less work plus you get to use the 5.0 engine mounts which are better than the old X-series type.


Hmm to have $10 dollars for every X series V8 mount I have seen, replaced or broken, I wouldn't be driving around an old EL that is for sure.

Pete you would be richer than me, how many Falcons have you opened the bonnet looked up and spotted the air cleaner rub mark (worse when the gearbox mount is broken or jelly from tranny oil leaks) and then chuckled as you check the engine mounts, then cursed at the headers someone has fitted which does not give you any room to do the job.

 

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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:58 pm 
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Well I don't know...how rich are you? I'm in a s**t load of debt which makes me rather poor in reality. I have an expensive wife too.
I used to put a bolt through those old mounts until they pulled the head of the bolt off! You know there are some really good modern versions of those that are captive. They have a tube with a urethane around them hence, they can't come apart although they tend to be a bit harsh, sending some more vibration through. Ron Morris Performance in the U.S. makes a nice adjustable set too. Allows engine height and set back adjustments.
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:16 pm 
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XR9UTE wrote:
It's not s**t. The K-frame is different but you can modify the six cyl one to take the V8 mounts. If you can find a V8 K-frame it's just less work plus you get to use the 5.0 engine mounts which are better than the old X-series type.

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but can it be done safley. keeping in mind he is simply putting this together to thrash the s**t out off. in heind sight it will be a poorly built burnout machine. id like to say it will never see the street but knowing him it will :?

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:29 am 
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nannas_ed wrote:
XR9UTE wrote:
It's not s**t. The K-frame is different but you can modify the six cyl one to take the V8 mounts. If you can find a V8 K-frame it's just less work plus you get to use the 5.0 engine mounts which are better than the old X-series type.

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but can it be done safley. keeping in mind he is simply putting this together to thrash the s**t out off. in heind sight it will be a poorly built burnout machine. id like to say it will never see the street but knowing him it will :?



Well....either option can be done safely. I don't understand the question?
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:33 pm 
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i think ur mate means the 4.0l falcon k frames are the same as the 5.0l falcon v8 k frames. theres no difference in k frames from EB-EL
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:24 pm 
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southportautorecyclers wrote:
i think ur mate means the 4.0l falcon k frames are the same as the 5.0l falcon v8 k frames. theres no difference in k frames from EB-EL


yeh thats what i mean. i was under the impression that a falcon 6cyl k-frame is different to that of a falcon v8 k-frame and if they are is it possible/safe to modify a 6cyl k-frame to suit a 351 clevo block.

although theres not much that i can do about it but if there were major operations that needed to be done to make it fit into a 6cyl k-frame id like to aleast warn him off possible dangers in do so.

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:50 pm 
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southportautorecyclers wrote:
i think ur mate means the 4.0l falcon k frames are the same as the 5.0l falcon v8 k frames. theres no difference in k frames from EB-EL


EA-ED K-frames are different from 6cyl to V8. EF-up are not.
The difference is in the mount area. Check out '66coupes' burnout wagon. He has modified the 6cyl K-member to take the old X-series type engine mounts.

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