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 Post subject: max power with no forced induction
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:35 am 
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Hi every one

Sorry if theres anther thread for this. I have and el series 2 xr8 and i wont to squeaz as much power as i can without a charger or turbo. If any one can give some ideas that would be much appreciated. I have all ready got a sport chip( don't know the brand ) and extractors but that how i bought it. And would any one know some big power to come out of a NA el xr8.

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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:37 am 
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 Post subject: Re: max power with no forced induction
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:29 am 
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Do you mean without touching the base engine?
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:59 am 
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Streetable? :) Maybe 200-230rwkw with Heads, Cam, Intake, Fuel upgrades. You'll probably spend alot more money going this way rather than forced. Look around and see what everyone else is doing. If you're wanting to avoid boost due to costs, then you're heading down the wrong path.

 

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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:42 pm 
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ok Thanks, Yeah I did think i was avoiding price on adding boost but ill look further into it. And i dont wont to bore it out (if thats what you mean by touching the base engine) that strocker kit sounds good how much power and torque would that give me?

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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:24 pm 
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simple things like a CAI system.. exhaust system...

i am at the stage now looking into AU gt heads with bigger cam and bigger injectors....

 

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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:07 pm 
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:15 pm 
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Its N20, and really, a blower is cheaper in the long run than N20. Trust me on that one.

Sorry to say, but at 17 i feel that 200rwkw is probably too much. Get some time driving and then think about more power. How is it you have a V8 at 17, doesnt that put you on P plates, and aren't P platers banned from V8's

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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:08 pm 
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Its N20, and really, a blower is cheaper in the long run than N20. Trust me on that one.

Sorry to say, but at 17 i feel that 200rwkw is probably too much. Get some time driving and then think about more power. How is it you have a V8 at 17, doesnt that put you on P plates, and aren't P platers banned from V8's

Brett


Not in canberra mate. And thats about the only good thing about canberra. And to tell you the truth i just wonna ticker with things the power is a bonus. I'v wonnted the car i have now befor i even new what power was. but Yeah i'm not gunna get N20. and all so as apprentice i wont be afford to much power in one go, but ill get there. thanks for your concern lol.

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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:38 pm 
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marxr8 wrote:
ok Thanks, Yeah I did think i was avoiding price on adding boost but ill look further into it. And i dont wont to bore it out (if thats what you mean by touching the base engine) that strocker kit sounds good how much power and torque would that give me?

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I meant, making the most out of the engine without going inside it. ie; stock heads,intake,cam but change things like headers, t-body etc.?
If so then;
BPT 3 piece underdrives
65mm t-body
70mm MAF body(from an AU for example)
Series 2 EL's already have GT headers so no need to change them
Twin 2 1/4" or single 3" exhaust
Cold air
Bump your base timing a couple of degrees.
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:45 pm 
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^^^^

That's a very good list of things to start with. How about you tell us your budget and we can give further suggestions from there. The sky really is the limit. If boost is out of your budget, then so is the 347 stroker.

 

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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:48 pm 
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can someone tell me where you can buy a CAI system for the El xr8s ????

or is it a autobahrn job with difference pipes etc etc etc...

 

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