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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:50 pm 
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Hi guys. Im still toying with the idea of a 6 -> 8 conversion.

Is the K-Frame actually different in the two, and does it need to be changed?

Wiring wise, I dont think moving the harness between cars is an issue.

Is there any other serious gotchas about a conversion?

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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:15 pm 
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What car?

 

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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:11 pm 
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both donor and recipient would be EB II 93 models
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:19 pm 
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Yes K frame is V8 specific in EB/ED models
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:54 pm 
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Righto. How hard is the K-Frame to change?
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:31 pm 
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rip the motor and box out.

you have to get the front up in the air, you need to drop the struts and all of the front suspension,

then the rack and then unbolt the K frame.

all the stuff you just took off the EB sadan V8 has to be put onto the wagon.

big job Nigel shame your going to do that to your mint looking EB2 mont, Ghia makes me want to cry.

the motor will fit no probs Nigel as long as you trans plant the front suspension as well.

as i said before to you, your exhaust will fit the cats and Y pipe, you mad have to get the rear part replaced from the Y pipe back, as i think the sedan one will be a bit short.

 

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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:33 pm 
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i almost forgot you need to use the Break booster from the V8 as well. and im not sure but you may need a better fuel pump.

 

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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:48 pm 
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The brake booster should be the same - weve just had this discussion. The newer car has ABS. So no need for a change there.

Hmmmm.

See Ive found a nice mint white EB, and I love my EL 193kw engine. Dont know how else to do it.

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Nigel wrote:
The brake booster should be the same - weve just had this discussion. The newer car has ABS. So no need for a change there.

Hmmmm.

See Ive found a nice mint white EB, and I love my EL 193kw engine. Dont know how else to do it.

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the booster is bigger in the v8 than the I6, you will need to use the shocks and V8 springs in the front. dont make the mistake of using I6 springs as they will not handle the extra weight.

 

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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:51 am 
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If you have a donor vehicle like the EB2 or an NC2, that would be the go but not entirely necessary. The V8 booster has a dual diaphram but your I6 should work. You will need the V8 loom and from very recent experience, the ED V8 loom is an evolution of the original EA loom. It is an absolute shamozzell. Be really careful with all connectors and that the loom isn't stretched.

 

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Interested in a fair go for the Hunter-New England area of NSW?

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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:41 am 
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and you will need your V8 cluster from the sedan as well.

and the ecu and the gearbox ecu

 

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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:53 pm 
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I guess what intersts me is if I need to change over the dash wiring, or if the V8 stuff for the TCM is an "add-in".

Thats probably the worst part of it. Cluster change : no problem. TCM : well, the 6 doesnt have one.. but were thinking.

Otherwise I sell the V8, and go see Joe.
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or buy this one lol

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll ... SS:AU:1123

it might have a plug there to add the extra part of the harness,

if you really whant to know whats needed speak to joe.

 

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:28 pm 
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You can always customise your looms to suit. I have an ED V8 that has a EF six cyl loom modified to suit with a DL V8 auto ecu and matching tcm. A good wiring diagram and help from people here make it an easier task.

 

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:31 pm 
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Thats what I was wondering!.

Still pondering - its a big job unless theres a spare V8 k-frame around..
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