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WindeX
 Post subject: Re: NL 5.0 died while running, now won't start
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:11 am 
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Excellent, I was not sure if you could replace just the gear!
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XR9UTE
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:11 am 
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If you're going to replace the gear get a Comp polymer one. No chance of eating the gear on the cam that way. You should carefully check that the cam gear is not buggered already?
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WindeX
 Post subject: Re: NL 5.0 died while running, now won't start
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:47 am 
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XR9UTE wrote:
If you're going to replace the gear get a Comp polymer one. No chance of eating the gear on the cam that way. You should carefully check that the cam gear is not buggered already?


There is no easy way to check this is there? The cam is stock along with all of the engine internals. Its got 320,xxx kms on it so its probably all a bit tired.
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XR9UTE
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:22 pm 
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You could use a Borescope. They can be had pretty cheap these days.
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WindeX
 Post subject: Re: NL 5.0 died while running, now won't start
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XR9UTE wrote:
You could use a Borescope. They can be had pretty cheap these days.


Just a quick browse on ebay and there are a heap of USB ones, might have to invest for a play.
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 3:27 pm 
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Mallory dizzy gears are compatible with both cast iron flat tappet & steel OEM hydraulic roller cam gears, and way cheaper than a polymer gear. That was why I suggested using one. With 320k on the engine I wouldn't be throwing a lot of money at it when a complete running engine can be had for under $1k. But of course that's up to the owner to decide.

 

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WindeX
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:17 pm 
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xafalcon wrote:
Mallory dizzy gears are compatible with both cast iron flat tappet & steel OEM hydraulic roller cam gears, and way cheaper than a polymer gear. That was why I suggested using one. With 320k on the engine I wouldn't be throwing a lot of money at it when a complete running engine can be had for under $1k. But of course that's up to the owner to decide.


Yeah I am definitely after the cheaper option with this one, its just a daily runner.
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WindeX
 Post subject: Re: NL 5.0 died while running, now won't start
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:18 am 
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http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ford-351-Win ... 500wt_1156

Guys I assume the above would suit as its for a 351W. Time to get this pig back on the road!
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XR9UTE
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:02 am 
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You need a steel gear....that one doesn't say what it's made of.
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WindeX
 Post subject: Re: NL 5.0 died while running, now won't start
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:04 pm 
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XR9UTE wrote:
You need a steel gear....that one doesn't say what it's made of.


Ah k, this looks more like it :)

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ford-351-Win ... 500wt_1156
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XR9UTE
 Post subject: Re: NL 5.0 died while running, now won't start
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:22 am 
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WindeX wrote:
XR9UTE wrote:
You need a steel gear....that one doesn't say what it's made of.


Ah k, this looks more like it :)

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ford-351-Win ... 500wt_1156


Still doesn't say what it's made of.
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WindeX
 Post subject: Re: NL 5.0 died while running, now won't start
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:38 am 
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Just for a few giggles I thought I'd post up some pics of the damage.
As you can see not only has one side been sheered off, all of the teeth have been worn down immensely!

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xafalcon
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:58 pm 
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It's a cast iron gear, no wonder. Fit a mallory gear to suit a 351W, it's compatible with the austempered hydraulic roller camshafts factory fitted to 5.0's.

 

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XR9UTE
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:09 pm 
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Factory cams are steel.
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xafalcon
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:43 pm 
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I thought so as well until my parts supplier faxed me (it was 2003) a copy of the mallory catalog to convince me this was the right gear to use. Listed as selectively austempered ductile iron billet. It's held up well for over 50,000k's now, so I can vouch for their suitability. Part number 29421 is what you need. It's compatible with flat tappet & OE hydraulic roller cams

 

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