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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:33 pm 
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My engine is a little noisy on startup, and for around 2-5 mins into driving.
What is the best oil to combat this?? Thicker or thinner??
I think ford recommends 15/40...motor has done 160,00k's

 

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Thinner oil in thse cold months to get good circulation.. I'd use 15/ 50....

 

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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:31 pm 
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Use whatever the book says. I run 5/30 in mine as per the specs.

A lot of people say to run thicker oil as the motor ages. If the motor is maintained well then I dont really think that is necessary. Thicker oil will quieten down a noisy tappet, but will not solve your startup noise (the oil wont even be up there that quick if you go thicker)

 

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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:56 pm 
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I thought thinner oil, so it gets up the pushrods, tappets quicker?

Either way, close to 15/ 40 should be fine.

 

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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:29 pm 
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As EBXR8380 stated thinner oil in the colder months of the year seems to work best.
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:29 am 
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Its the lower visc number that matters in cold conditions...

 

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Hate to spoil the party but what happens in the lab should stay in the lab IMO. From my experience the lifters (after 120,000 hard kilometres) seem to bleed down excesivelly overnight especialy when thin oil is being used.
I personaly recommend along with some of the more senior windsor devowtees like to use penrite 15/60 semi synthetic. Try it and tell me what U think. :wink:
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:13 am 
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Hate to spoil the party but what happens in the lab should stay in the lab IMO. From my experience the lifters (after 120,000 hard kilometres) seem to bleed down excesivelly overnight especialy when thin oil is being used.
I personaly recommend along with some of the more senior windsor devowtees like to use penrite 15/60 semi synthetic. Try it and tell me what U think. :wink:


15/60 hey..........sounds good, please explain what bleed down means?>??

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:13 pm 
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i use penzoil 15/40, started her the other day after bout 6 weeks sitting in the shed and not a single tap.

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:04 pm 
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I use HPR 15 Penrite (semi-synth) in the TE, its had about 130K of abusive driving. Running a thin oil made all sorts of horrible noises (thanks dealerships!).

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:53 pm 
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I use HPR 15 Penrite (semi-synth) in the TE, its had about 130K of abusive driving. Running a thin oil made all sorts of horrible noises (thanks dealerships!).


Thats what I use and top up with synthetic {Sin 15} to 7 ltrs due to big sump...
If the lifters are rattly its NOT the oil .. Its excessive clearance...
My lifters have done all up 180,000 and good as new...
I have stud mount rockers and cam with high lift and still reasonably quiet... Crap Ford valve spings don't help !!! Even the Tickfords are no better..

 

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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:21 am 
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it doesnt get quite so cold over here, but my burnout car with a 302 in her loves the thicker oil, never smokes, loses level or makes any noise. The engine is carburetted, and im using 20/50

 

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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:01 pm 
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BOTTLEDUP wrote:
I use HPR 15 Penrite (semi-synth) in the TE, its had about 130K of abusive driving. Running a thin oil made all sorts of horrible noises (thanks dealerships!).


Maybe I'm wrong-but isn't HPR 15 a relatively thin oil?

 

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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:16 pm 
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i have been using HPR15 in the xr8 not the disel s**t though lol, it hasnt burnt a drop and it has been 10,000km so far

 

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