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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:01 pm 
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driving the car the other noticed it was getting real hot, didnt have time to pull over, as i was almost home, got home let it sit for a while to cool down then opened the rad cap and yeah it was pretty much empty, filled it up tried ot start the car, it turned over ok, so it wasnt seized then unfortunately whilst trying to get it to start i flattenered the battery (which has been playing up anyways), we tried to jump it it but got nothing, just a single tap noise, i'm worried that i have seized the motor even though it seems fairly unlikely.

does anyone know how i can check, the batterys on charge at the moment so i wont know till its ready.
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:26 pm 
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try and turn the motor over by hand...use the fan....i think that still works..

 

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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:27 pm 
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check the dip stick to see if any water is in the sump will be a coffee milky colour, also see if you can turn motor over by hand the right way, if not see if you can turn it backwards, you my off cracked the head and be suffering from hydrolic lock up with water in the pistons.

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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:28 pm 
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If its a single tap noise I'd say batter or starter related.

 

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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:31 pm 
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yeah its definately busted the head gasket, coffee colour, just starting to form at the end of the dipstick, changing thwe head gasket is no drama, i knew i had to do that anyways, i'm more concerned about it being seized and having to change the whole motor.

i havent tried to hand turn it yet i'll go have a go now :)
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:42 pm 
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well it seems to being turning by hand, i only gave it a few turns back and forth, fingers crossed its ok :roll:
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:45 pm 
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rip the head off it and then check it all out properly then only a 30 min job maximum
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:10 pm 
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yeah when i get the new head gasket i'll do that, its winding over now but still not enough to start it battery still needs more charge, migt just go and get a new battery
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:27 pm 
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ok well th3e battery is fully charged tried ot wind it over with some very some noises happening, its like a grinding but it dosent last long as the starter just packs in after about 3 or 4 turns, now its doing nothing at all. i gave it a few hits with a hammer, to no avail, maybe its buggered too.
nothing would surprise me today :x

i'll take the head off tomorrow.
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:25 pm 
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the exact some thing happened to me ( left the car over night after running it hot with a f@#k head gasket) when i tried to start it it just clicked, tried to jump start it and still just clicked, so i thought id siezed it.
turned out by coinsidence my battery had died at the same time, new battery and it was like new again except many litres of water in the oil.
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:18 am 
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MikGan wrote:
If its a single tap noise I'd say batter or starter related.


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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:45 am 
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I'd bet on hydrolic lock up happening, 1 or more cyl's filling with water and locking motor up, then draining over time.
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:51 pm 
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spot on mate, i took the head off today it was that pressurised that when i cracked the last head bolt, its actually hissed :wink: put the new gasket in about 10 minutes ago, i'll finish the rest tomorrow, ahahaha .......... just quick b**ch - aussie auto, stay away form those clowns went there for the gasket guy gives me one get home and there was no way it for falcon, went back there and they tell me i could only get store credit LOL, i walked with one from a whole kit.

still wasted 2 hrs of my day :evil:
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:32 pm 
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dude, get someone to tap your starter with a bar , dont hit the solanoid, and turn it over at the same time..
Should work with that click, sounds like youve cooked the starter. Too much heat under that hood, Also make sure those jumper leads are attacthed good..

 

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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:46 pm 
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might sound weird but if ur stuck 4 ideas try pushin it a bit an droppin it in 1st while rollin....not enough 2 start it but just enough to turn it a few turns....iv seen it work but dont ask me how.....lol

 

 

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