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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:53 am 
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Hi what needs to be done to get this dash into my XD i have all wiring looms heaterbox and parts? where do i get the wiring diagrams from so i can cut and change the plugs in the XD

 

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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:57 am 
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I did this in my xd and from memory all you need is the actual plug that goes into the cluster itself. The colours on the wires are a pain though and it is actually one wire short. Max Ellerys manuals are the best ones if you can get a hold of one.

 

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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:49 pm 
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well there isa lot more to it than that i assure you...

if you want to use the XF/ZL heater box as well, you will notice the heaqter box is about 50mm thicker, and the XD dont have an extra protrusion into the engine bay to allow for the room.

i am doing this conversion right now and have consulted my engineer to odify the firewall and extend a section into the engine bay to allow enough room for the new heater box.

i spent a bit of time looking at modifying the XD heater box to use behind the dash, but didnt want to give up the superiour design of the XF box and the electronic controls of the ZL heater control, so i decided to use the ZL heater box.

i have a heap of photos to show the size differances.

aside from the heater box, the rest of it is a direct bolt in, the dash lines up, all bolt holes remained the same, the passenger side footwell air vent needs a bit of work to seal it properly as it site slightly to far forward over the hole, but its not to big a problem.

if you want to put the digital cluster behind the XD dash, well im not sure, i havent looked into it.

as for wiring diagrams, i have a few scans from an origional ford service manual which are pretty clear to help you sort out wiring.

i belive the change is a pretty big one, ive seen it done before and it looks good, which is why im doing it, but normally with the sacrafice of the heater and air controls, the XF dash will fit over the top of the XD heater box, but with no controls for the heater.

let me know if you are still keen on the mod and ill dig up some pics

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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:57 pm 
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Yeah I only changed the cluster not the whole dash. That was way too hard! :lol:

 

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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 1:12 pm 
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I am definately keen on doing it and keeping the Zl heater box too, if you could help me out with pics and wiring diagrams i'd appreciate it a lot. are you acctually going to cut a hole through your firewall to have the heater box stick out? if so let me know as i will no doubt do the same. Also i thought the XF firewall came further back to allow for the longer 6 cyl motor how is it that the heater box wont fit into the XD?

 

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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:54 pm 
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are the wiring diagrams in the MAX Ellery's manual the same for XD and XF???

 

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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:25 pm 
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well, no idea what you are talking about, then engine blocks are the same size, the XF isnt longer...?

the wiring diagrams are different to the Gregory manuals ones, they have the correct colours and correct wires going to the right number plugs

Now for the hole in the firewall, im not going to have it "Stick Out", the firewall will have a section cut out and extended into the engine bay approximatly 50mm, with new mounting holes and plates welded in. the firewall mod must be engineered to be legal.

well now the firewalls for the XD and XF are different (Had this argument a few times), the XF has an extra bulge into the engine bay on the passenger side, which is what i will be replicating on the XD, the XD has a much flatter firewall and with the two heater boxes next to each other it is obvious.

be aware its not an easy mod thats for sure
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:59 pm 
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so is the gregory's manual correct or the MAX ELLERY's correct?

 

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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:12 pm 
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well in my experiance they are both incorrect, the correct ones i have are from a ford factory repair manual, not commercially availiable
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:05 am 
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i have done the conversion ended up giving up on the heater box but the easist was is to remove xd wiring loom and install the xf one it took my electrician mate 16 hours to work out which wires go where all the wires are different colours form xd - xf so save your self a big head ache and use the wirring loom also the head light work differently in xd to xf xf required to use extra relays xd did not

 

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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:08 am 
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i had both factory manuals as well you can get them off ebay fairly easy

 

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Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 5:43 am 
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thanks warlock i will use the XF loom and put it in there also i ahve a manual for the XD, XE, XF, it's a MAX ellerys is that good enough

 

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Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:28 am 
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the factory ones are better but if you are using the intire xf loom from front to back then u will be ok you will be ok

 

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Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:52 am 
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Warlock,

does your manual explain how to remove the XF ducting behind the dash? I can't find my book anywhere.... I have removed the vacuum lines, disconnected the wiring all thats left is the damn hand brake. The manual i read says to just undo the two hand brake retaining bolts and the ducting should just slide out. Doesn't happen. Does your book say any different?

 

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Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:22 pm 
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i borrowed my mates xf manual but the ducting goes through the dash i think it is prettu easy to get the xf dash out in one peice i have it down to a art form lol, takes me about 1/2 hour pull it out and have a look be care full not to snapo off the mounting pionts thou other wise XRQTER currently has his xf dash out maybe he could have a look and take some pics for you

 

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