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 Post subject: Re: Auto to Manual Conversion Guide
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:04 pm 
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cool :) i was a little worried i might have to try and source that too...still trying to find the fly wheel and clutch assy bolts lol
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 Post subject: Re: Auto to Manual Conversion Guide
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:12 pm 
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hey guys, im putting the new motor and manual conversion in tomorrow afternoon :) i managed to get the flywheel bolts and 3 clutch assy bolts from my local ford spare parts ( i got the ONLY manual flywheel and clutch assy bolts they had in stock lol ) i took one of the clutch assy bolts to repco and matched it up with what they had ( BM48 HIGH TENSILE M8 x 1.25x25 ) and got the last 3 bolts i needed :) i have just 2 more questions, i think i read some where but cant remember exactly that i can reuse the "auto" sandwich plates on the manual...is this true? and what type of thread locker would you recomend?
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 Post subject: Re: Auto to Manual Conversion Guide
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 8:25 am 
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Sandwich plates should be the same, I didn't change mine when I converted my 6cyl from auto to manual.

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 Post subject: Re: Auto to Manual Conversion Guide
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:22 pm 
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hey guys, im putting the new motor and manual conversion in tomorrow afternoon :) i managed to get the flywheel bolts and 3 clutch assy bolts from my local ford spare parts ( i got the ONLY manual flywheel and clutch assy bolts they had in stock lol ) i took one of the clutch assy bolts to repco and matched it up with what they had ( BM48 HIGH TENSILE M8 x 1.25x25 ) and got the last 3 bolts i needed :) i have just 2 more questions, i think i read some where but cant remember exactly that i can reuse the "auto" sandwich plates on the manual...is this true? and what type of thread locker would you recomend?


Loctite 263 stud locker. The red one. Or the permatex equivalent.

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 Post subject: Re: Auto to Manual Conversion Guide
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:13 pm 
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Great work on the doco though I have a couple questions.

1st: With the required mods to the auto loom do I still have to do this if I'm using the manuals loom??

2nd: conversion is in a fairmont and planning on using the manual falcon ecu but I'm wondering if ill have any issues with cc or anything??

3rd: I just bolted it all in but realised I didn't put the top sandwich plate in (slaps forehead), do I now have to remove the box and put it in or can I leave it out??

 

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 Post subject: Re: Auto to Manual Conversion Guide
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:37 pm 
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You need to put that top sandwich plate in! It helps with drive train alignment, and iirc has the threads for the starter motor to bolt up to.

If you install the manual ecu & manual wiring harness, you shouldn't have to worry about the car not running(which is why wiring get's modified). In regards to climate control, what model fairmont are you playing with?


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 Post subject: Re: Auto to Manual Conversion Guide
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:46 pm 
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ToranaGuy wrote:
You need to put that top sandwich plate in! It helps with drive train alignment, and iirc has the threads for the starter motor to bolt up to.

If you install the manual ecu & manual wiring harness, you shouldn't have to worry about the car not running(which is why wiring get's modified). In regards to climate control, what model fairmont are you playing with?


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Ok ill put it in then cheers.
I'm doing it in my 96 ef fairmont and will be using a 95 falcons manual ecu.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Auto to Manual Conversion Guide
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:02 pm 
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Cool. On the CC side of things, I have a feeling you will need to mod something. Have a good read thru, the answer should be in this thread.

I didn't have to in my Eb Ghia, but that's an older car.

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 Post subject: Re: Auto to Manual Conversion Guide
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I think that you have to use the clutch pedal switch to push the Pause button on the cruise control so that it doesn't over rev when you change gears.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Auto to Manual Conversion Guide
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:48 pm 
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I think that you have to use the clutch pedal switch to push the Pause button on the cruise control so that it doesn't over rev when you change gears.


Yup I have the cc switch for the clutch pedal. I was just making sure the falcon ecu will work in the fairmont.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Auto to Manual Conversion Guide
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:38 am 
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That's one part of the conversion I still need to do on my red Eb Xr8, however it doesn't have a cruise control wheel in it atm, so I guess it doesn't really matter until I get the correct wheel so I can actually turn the cruise on lol.

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 Post subject: Re: Auto to Manual Conversion Guide
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:54 am 
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ToranaGuy wrote:
That's one part of the conversion I still need to do on my red Eb Xr8, however it doesn't have a cruise control wheel in it atm, so I guess it doesn't really matter until I get the correct wheel so I can actually turn the cruise on lol.

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I was lucky enough to get mine from the 5spd donor eb awhile ago, wrecked an ef 5spd not long ago and it didn't have the switch so I was happy about 2 things, having the switch from the eb and the pedal box and flywheel from the ef. Got the best box reco'd which was the ef as the eb's gears an syncro's were a mess now its just a parts box.

 

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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:50 am 
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i changed my ef from a auto to a manual including diff in 3 hours also remove the dash in 45 min to change the pedal box easy stuff ony issue was i had to get a new computer from ford as at the time j3 didnt exsist $700 bucks, still have it packed away as i later changed it back to a auto matic but left the pedal box in and left the diff in 3,45 lsd. car has a turbo fitted now and is bloody quick i plann on selling the gbox tail shaft , el.and ef ecu,s ect later on maybe on ebay or somthing
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:07 am 
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evxr6 wrote:
I think that you have to use the clutch pedal switch to push the Pause button on the cruise control so that it doesn't over rev when you change gears.


Yup I have the cc switch for the clutch pedal. I was just making sure the falcon ecu will work in the fairmont.


It should still work fine with the Falcon ECU. I run a J3 chip with an EL XR6 manual tune which is technically a Falcon ECU with fuel mapping for a Tickford motor. Not 100% sure, but the CC is affected by the BEM rather than ECU...someone correct me if I am wrong here.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Auto to Manual Conversion Guide
Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:52 am 
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My EL Fairmont Ghia is undergoing a manual conversion at the moment, what happens if I just leave the auto ECU in there without doing resistor trick or remapping my J3?

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