Home |  Forums |  Search |  My Profile |  Chat  Photo Gallery |  Events Calendar |  Technical Documents  No messages |  New Posts |  Watched Topics |  Register   2 low! Goto page Previous  1, 2          Forum Index -> Gearbox, Suspension, Brake & Driveline Workshop Latest ratings Highest-ranked posts Highest-ranked topics Highest-ranked posters   bowsaw Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:43 Posts: 4370 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Karratha WA, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 12:03 am    Post subject: Seems to be another case of, fully sik look, more interested in the look, than how it handles, you never cut springs, , be contant with what you have, not looking ffuullllyyyy siikkk uleh. Save some money and do it properly. Back to top dasmq Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:46 Posts: 431 Joined: 08 Nov 2004 Location: Bilpin NSW, Australia View User Gallery (12) Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 1:52 pm    Post subject: The problem with cutting spring is that when you heat them up you affect the tension on the spring and as you drive over the next few years your car will be going down till one day the springs will fall out. If you want to lower your car more than what you paid for then go the the manufacture they will either do it at that height or laugh at you. I have done this (cut springs) it was cheap at the time but when I look at it , it was stupid.People should not knock others for what they read on all discution sites they read that people do things but don't know any better. The car as pointed out is not a death machine at the moment but a bad dissision on his part. All modified cars could be classed as death machines if that is what you want as any change to the f@rt Billons spent to get a standard car on the road and safe. DQ SORRY BAD SPELLING Back to top stikky Fordmods Parts Gopher Age:40 Posts: 62 Joined: 19 Nov 2004 Location: Wacol QLD, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 1:09 pm    Post subject: Everybody now repeat after me 'I SHALL NOT CUT MY SPRINGS' once again for the dummies 'I SHALL NOT CUT MY SPRINGS' shiiiiiiiiiit hey shoey50 I'd suggest you go and drive a car that has been done properly and handles properly. You may just understand then. Clever people are paid lots of money to design cars and clever people also design,test and manufacture aftermarket bits. All we have to do is be clever enough to realise that they may just be cleverer than us. if your gonna do it, do it properly. Back to top tickford_6 Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:25 Posts: 3690 Joined: 11 Nov 2004 Location: townsville QLD, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 7:21 pm    Post subject: stikky wrote: Everybody now repeat after me 'I SHALL NOT CUT MY SPRINGS' once again for the dummies 'I SHALL NOT CUT MY SPRINGS' shiiiiiiiiiit hey shoey50 I'd suggest you go and drive a car that has been done properly and handles properly. You may just understand then. Clever people are paid lots of money to design cars and clever people also design,test and manufacture aftermarket bits. All we have to do is be clever enough to realise that they may just be cleverer than us. if your gonna do it, do it properly. very well said. Back to top EB XR8 Fordmods Oompa Loompa Age:25 Posts: 48 Joined: 08 Nov 2004 Location: Brisbane QLD, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 2:54 pm    Post subject: dasmq wrote: The problem with cutting spring is that when you heat them up you affect the tension on the spring and as you drive over the next few years your car will be going down till one day the springs will fall out. I have a question. Not that i plan on cutting my springs as i already have lowered pedders on there with koni adjustables. But just for arguements sake, if someone was to cut their springs with say, a hacksaw, the spring would not be heated up, and in theory, should not affect the spring rate set by the manufacturer. Comments please...... Back to top Marmo aka GRNGOB Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:21 Posts: 482 Joined: 16 Nov 2004 Location: aspendale / frankson VIC, Australia View User Gallery (1) Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:08 pm    Post subject: i think its more the ammount of coils Back to top justfordima Technical Contributor Age:22 Posts: 2788 Joined: 06 Nov 2004 Location: Sydney NSW, Australia View User Gallery (7) Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:11 pm    Post subject: EB XR8 wrote: dasmq wrote: The problem with cutting spring is that when you heat them up you affect the tension on the spring and as you drive over the next few years your car will be going down till one day the springs will fall out. I have a question. Not that i plan on cutting my springs as i already have lowered pedders on there with koni adjustables. But just for arguements sake, if someone was to cut their springs with say, a hacksaw, the spring would not be heated up, and in theory, should not affect the spring rate set by the manufacturer. Comments please...... friction from saw = heat, not as much as an oxy, but there's still heat... I can understand this rate talk going on... but not sure iof im on the right track.. If springs tension is tuned to the amount of coils, cut that, and the tension of the spring goes out the window? plus sagging....hmmm I had cut springs in my car before, from the previous owner.. they started sagging, caused tyre problems, suspension problems, and strange noises of all sorts... now I have pedders all round, alot better... problem is, my pedders springs just aren't low enough. my thoughts anyway cheers Back to top partie Fordmods Tyre Shredder Age:23 Posts: 344 Joined: 06 Nov 2004 Location: Melbourne VIC, Australia View User Gallery (3) Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:30 pm    Post subject: EB XR8 wrote: dasmq wrote: The problem with cutting spring is that when you heat them up you affect the tension on the spring and as you drive over the next few years your car will be going down till one day the springs will fall out. I have a question. Not that i plan on cutting my springs as i already have lowered pedders on there with koni adjustables. But just for arguements sake, if someone was to cut their springs with say, a hacksaw, the spring would not be heated up, and in theory, should not affect the spring rate set by the manufacturer. Comments please...... hey, the spring rate is governed by the following formular : stiffness = G*(d^4)/(8*n*D^4) where G = shear modulas d = wire diametre n = number of coils D = diametre of coils so, by reducing n, you will increase the stiffness of a helical spring. Back to top EB XR8 Fordmods Oompa Loompa Age:25 Posts: 48 Joined: 08 Nov 2004 Location: Brisbane QLD, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 11:04 am    Post subject: partie wrote: EB XR8 wrote: dasmq wrote: The problem with cutting spring is that when you heat them up you affect the tension on the spring and as you drive over the next few years your car will be going down till one day the springs will fall out. I have a question. Not that i plan on cutting my springs as i already have lowered pedders on there with koni adjustables. But just for arguements sake, if someone was to cut their springs with say, a hacksaw, the spring would not be heated up, and in theory, should not affect the spring rate set by the manufacturer. Comments please...... hey, the spring rate is governed by the following formular : stiffness = G*(d^4)/(8*n*D^4) where G = shear modulas d = wire diametre n = number of coils D = diametre of coils so, by reducing n, you will increase the stiffness of a helical spring. A fellow Mechanical Engineering Student??? Back to top outlawxr6 Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:36 Posts: 518 Joined: 20 Nov 2004 Location: Brisbane QLD, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 7:58 am    Post subject: Have you checked to see if it is riding on the bump stops?????? This is a common mistake... Back to top 1 SLY 97EL Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:38 Posts: 1826 Joined: 06 Nov 2004 Location: Bayside, Brisbane QLD, Australia View User Gallery (3) Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 9:04 am    Post subject: mitch_anderson wrote: is it alrite to install superlows without new shockies? Best to get new shock as you will find the old ones wont handle the extra load from the new shorter springs and you will end up bottoming out all the time. Which is what happened to me Back to top MRE-50L Fordmods Junkie Posts: 2270 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: West Ryde - Sydney NSW, Australia View User Gallery (50) Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 6:00 pm    Post subject: OK MY 2Cents > You cut ya springs YOUR A f**k IDIOT ............ Back to top partie Fordmods Tyre Shredder Age:23 Posts: 344 Joined: 06 Nov 2004 Location: Melbourne VIC, Australia View User Gallery (3) Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:53 pm    Post subject: EB XR8, yeah doing mech eng. lolz. Back to top Punnisher_42 Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:26 Posts: 744 Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Location: Tingalpa QLD, Australia View User Gallery (26) Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:12 pm    Post subject: I have heard of this being done, but i'm guessing it's illegal as well, but is it possible to put some form of clamp on the spring to temporarily bring down the ride height? No doubt these are illegal for above listed problems as well?? thoughts please (not cursing and swearing?) Back to top bowsaw Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:43 Posts: 4370 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Karratha WA, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:17 am    Post subject: Even worse than cutting springs, evidently they can fly off when the spring compresses, and hit someone, you , the car, bugger that. Back to top AXR88U Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:34 Posts: 441 Joined: 29 Nov 2004 Location: Sydney NSW, Australia View User Gallery (1) Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:04 pm    Post subject: Has anyone thought that it maybe that low that its resting on the bumb stop rubbers like one of those wankers in a gemini, and thats why its bouncing. Either get new springs or cut some off (or take them out, which I dont really recommend) the bump stop rubbers. How low do people want to have their cars anyway, Back to top CHEF Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Posts: 1959 Joined: 06 Nov 2004 Location: Under the flight path of incoming packpackers NSW, Australia View User Gallery (22) Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:57 pm    Post subject: How funny is a super low gemini bouncing down the road! All those baseball hats bouncing up and down like crazy... even better at night with the sparks flying from the chassis hitting the ground! Ah those buckets last about 10 minutes in sydney... cops love em! 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