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Felony
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What are they if any? and what would i need to change to put a 4litre long motor in my car? would all the accesories from the 3.9 mpi go on? Also just using a ef 4litre for example would the motor need to have the coil packs to work properly? Im only planning on getting a long motor with no accessories so im hoping it will all go together without any mods, and i am able to just bolt on all the 3.9 gear, I assume flywheels are the same too?
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Dellboy999
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| Yes it will fit, a motor is a motor basically speaking, gearbox will bolt up, engine mounts will fit and bolt up, and all other accesories, brackets etc will bolt and fit as best I know, the same exhaust manifold was used for EA to EF. |
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Felony
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 9:56 am Post subject: |
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oh btw forgot to mention the 4.0 litre motor im looking at is out of a eb if its of any use
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:09 am Post subject: |
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| Felony wrote: | oh btw forgot to mention the 4.0 litre motor im looking at is out of a eb if its of any use
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this means that you wont need coil packs, i wouldnt se the point upgrading if you aready have a mpfi engine, a nice upgrade would be an au tickford if u wanted some exra power |
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Felony
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:11 am Post subject: |
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i just got my hands on this motor off ebay paid $56 for a 4 litre, i was after a motor to work then drop in and i ended up with a 4litre thats all,
I was also just curious bout the coil packs incase it was from a ef cause at the time of posting i had no idea what it was out of,
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Just a question:
When did they switch from center point injection to multipoint?
Was it sometime during the EAs? |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:51 am Post subject: |
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yeh EA's had both cpi and mpfi,, cpi was done away with as the EB came in...
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Felony
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:51 am Post subject: |
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| yes it was through the ea's |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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| some of the series 1 eb's were centre point aswell, and ive also seen cfi on ex taxis but that isnt standard. |
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bogan393
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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| some of the early eb's had cfi aswell, and ive seen cfi setups on ef taxis but they arnt standard i dont think. |
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Felony
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Some people tell me that theres internal differences between the 3.9 and 4 litre engine, to the point where im told its better to work a 4.0 rather than a 3.9? whats the deal is there any diff besides .1 of a litre, also how do you work out how many litres 40thou ( 1mm ) is,
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| Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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| i think that the bottom end on both engines are the same, however i think the heads are different. may be wrong though |
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 8:45 am Post subject: |
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ive done a 3.9 to 4l conversion in my EA wagon, the motor is out of a xh ute (i think its xh or xg cant remember wich), all accesories bolt on, the 4l has a slightly bigger bore from memory and yea different head. All accessories bolt on without a drama, one thing you might want to check though is with 3.9's they ran a V belt on the alternator, the 4l crank pulley had a flat belt so had to change the pully on my alternator but apart from that everything else bolts up
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 10:43 am Post subject: |
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Ive seen an article in Autospeed (on the web) that chronicles
the E series Falcon engines, with much detail.
Rather good.
Try this link to "Awakening the Aussie Ford 6"
http://autospeed.drive.com.au/cms/A_2233/article.html
PS. I also have a pdf copy of the article, if anybody wants one
as the link doesn't always give the complete article.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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www.eafalcon.com
have all the specs
Bore x stroke
91.86 x 99.30 mm (3.9)
92.3 x 99.3 mm (4.0)
Thats what i got
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