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green car
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| Can i run an ef cam and rocker gear on my au head?Would widen the range of cams to suit thats for sure but i dont think it could be that easy? |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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I believe not. The rocker gear and camshaft are different to E-series heads.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| cant vouch for the rocker gear, but believe me, dont go putting an e series cam in there. VERY bad |
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green car
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| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Can anyone say for sure if its possible? |
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fiftyone
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| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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pritty sure its not.
had one guy tell me changing the arms or the pedistles (cant remember which) and all is good. cant find the thread tho.
i've also been told that if you were able to fit it, you'd have a head full of bent valves.
putting the e series cam in with the original gear is bad tho, it makes it sit high and will actually bow and snap the rocker train. (personal experience) |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:49 am Post subject: |
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| green car wrote: | | Can anyone say for sure if its possible? |
I think it can provided the rocker gear and the cam are from the same motor. The AU Rocker has a different ratio to the EL(non hybrid) and earlier motors. The only issue might be clearance of the springs if putting Au gear onto an EF/EL the other way should be OK.
*** please note the "think" and "should" words **** |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:37 am Post subject: |
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| i thought the cam journals were larger on the au? |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:56 am Post subject: |
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| Redford wrote: | | i thought the cam journals were larger on the au? |
pretty sure they are |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:15 am Post subject: |
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| it does work I have seen AU heads with E series rocker gear running e series cams, all that happens is the rocker geometry is changed to allow the e series cam, however I am pretty certain the later e-series rocker gear is needed, EF/EL. cam jurnals should be the same size, I have also seen au cam and rocker gear in an EB not a head swap just cam and rocker gear. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:35 am Post subject: |
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I can confirm it works as I have this setup in my car.
You need AU rocker pedestals with EB-EL rocker arms and shafts. I'm running the old RPD rspec 4 cam in an ED engine with AU head, and besides a couple of snapped valve springs I haven't had any problems. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:51 am Post subject: |
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| weeman wrote: | | besides a couple of snapped valve springs I haven't had any problems. |
i would consider that to be pretty serious |
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| FordFairmont wrote: | | weeman wrote: | | besides a couple of snapped valve springs I haven't had any problems. |
i would consider that to be pretty serious |
Never had a problem until I upgraded to the rspec 4 cam. Running 0.600" lift @ 6200rpm is very demanding on valve springs. |
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theres a lot of 'may' and 'could' and other words of such.
it doesnt inspire confidance. however i'd like to try it if i could get my hands on a e series cam (and i have a rock solid guarantee from ppl here)
weeman, have you guys had problems with the au style ecu getting messed with the cam? heard that it doesnt really like the cam changes |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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| fiftyone wrote: | theres a lot of 'may' and 'could' and other words of such.
it doesnt inspire confidance. however i'd like to try it if i could get my hands on a e series cam (and i have a rock solid guarantee from ppl here)
weeman, have you guys had problems with the au style ecu getting messed with the cam? heard that it doesnt really like the cam changes |
Car / Engine is an ED running an AU head. Stock setup with AU head ran fine with the ED ECU, however I'm now running a megasquirt ECU with the larger cam. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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| ah, not what i was looking for. i've been told that a au engine and ecu wont accept a cam change easy. |
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I think you will find that an AU engine with an E series ECU will accept a cam change easily.
The problem seems to be reported, by Wade Cams, that an AU ECU won't easily accept the cam.
I would go and check out the AU Forums on the Australian Ford Forums website. A number of them are running cams with good success.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Well im still very unsure,there are a couple that say you can run ef rocker gear and cam on an au head but some mixed info isnt really definite enough.I would need some 100% info before i risked it.Thanks alot for all the replies |
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fiftyone
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| green car wrote: | | Well im still very unsure,there are a couple that say you can run ef rocker gear and cam on an au head but some mixed info isnt really definite enough.I would need some 100% info before i risked it.Thanks alot for all the replies |
same |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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| fiftyone wrote: | | green car wrote: | | Well im still very unsure,there are a couple that say you can run ef rocker gear and cam on an au head but some mixed info isnt really definite enough.I would need some 100% info before i risked it.Thanks alot for all the replies |
same |
aside from the fact that some who posted in this thread is actualy running the early rocker gear in an AU head. |
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| tickford_6 wrote: | | fiftyone wrote: | | green car wrote: | | Well im still very unsure,there are a couple that say you can run ef rocker gear and cam on an au head but some mixed info isnt really definite enough.I would need some 100% info before i risked it.Thanks alot for all the replies |
same |
aside from the fact that some who posted in this thread is actualy running the early rocker gear in an AU head. |
i've also had people in other threads say it doesnt work |
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