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BenJ Cruise Moderator
Posts: 1467 Joined: 20 May 2005 Location: Seven Hills, Sydney NSW, Australia
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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The reasons I am considering it are, that the EL had the best steering and suspension geometery out of all the E Series, and the lower control arm bush is about 4 times bigger than the EA-ED. Also with the EL engine already in the car it just sort makes sense. However there are a lot of things to consider, such as Steering rack fitment and then needing EL engine mounts.
Re the AU setup, this has been done, but is NOT a bolt in or easy modification to make it fit. This in my opinion is not within the realms of DIY at home. As I understand it you need to cut and shut the front chassis rails.
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frankieh Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 1:08 am Post subject: |
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Ironically, thats exactly what I plan to do.. EL everything... I have not put my supercharged engine in my beast yet, but when I do.. I'll be doing the entire front end.. all undercarriage and possibly the steering column as well if I have to, but I think I won't have to.
My plan is to eventually have an EL XR6 nose on it and possibly an EL rear bumper as well so the lines match up..
I love the EA-ED rear end, but think the EL XR has it at the front.
I'm doing the front suspension for the same reason you are, its a better basis to work from. |
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FordFairmont Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 7:18 am Post subject: |
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if by the sound of it frankieh your looking at doing eveything at the same time....... its gonna be 5 years before we see this EL motor in your car  |
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huggiebear Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 7:22 am Post subject: |
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i got some questions on that subject for you.. i put EL front shocks in my lane yesterday and there are a few differences, the lower control arm is thinner where the shock meets, the swaybar will need to be changed as the bar with the bushes are thicker and dont fit (cry i needed to replace mine) but nothing major.
ok the question is, how do i fit the EL swaybar bushes to my NC without the lower control arm swap? or am i just better off buying new bushes? |
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frankieh Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
Age:36 Posts: 1347 Joined: 23 Dec 2007 Location: Perth WA, Australia
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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FordFairmont, It should be easy to do it all at once..
When the motor is ready.. I go to a mates with a trailer and pick up an EL front end...
take a week off works and bolt the whole lot in, in one hit..
I'm doing all the other stuff like wiring and putting in a clutch pedal first in preparation.. when it's all done, the main work should go pretty quickly.
The EL front end and rad support will probably not happen at the same time though.. That can wait till later. |
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BenJ Cruise Moderator
Posts: 1467 Joined: 20 May 2005 Location: Seven Hills, Sydney NSW, Australia
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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Huggiebear, when I put the EL swaybar in my EB I used the EB Link rod and bushes.
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huggiebear Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| ahh ok. bugger. ill price some new bushes tomorrow. see how broke i end up |
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BenJ Cruise Moderator
Posts: 1467 Joined: 20 May 2005 Location: Seven Hills, Sydney NSW, Australia
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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Gidday All
Well, I had the EB at the NSW All Ford Day at Warwick Farm last Sunday. Had a great day out, and there was lots of great cars to look at.
As part of my prep work, I added some more EL parts to the interior.
Thanks once again to Paulmac for the parts.
I put in the EL Rear Parcel Shelf, which really tidied up the things.
While I had it out I installed the factory 8" sub, which will be set up later.
The other parts were the A Pillar covers. My EB ones were really faded. In addition they left a gap when the EL dash was installed. The EL covers are a much nicer grey, and fill the gap nicely.
EB Pillars
EL Pillars
The dash looks more complete now.
While at the AFD and seeing the EB was clean and polished, I took the opportunity to take some pics.
Hope you are all well.
Cheers
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Paulmac Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
Age:61 Posts: 636 Joined: 24 Sep 2007 Location: Central Coast NSW, Australia
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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Wash and polish!!! That truly is a budget effective means of improving the look and value of a car.
Looks great but seems on the simple side compared to all the other things you've done. LOL
One wonders why this cheap and simple improvement had not occurred to your devious and complex mind earlier.
Ahhh I know, it's not really available at the wreckers at bargain prices!!!
Cheers,
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Rick's EF Fairmont Wagon Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:59 am Post subject: |
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The Ef/L front suspension is a half day swap. I swapped out my bent K-frame and steering rack in half a day.
The Lane front end looks great on a wagon I totally agree. It'a a shame the later models were not so different as I would love to dress up my wagons with more than a grille/bonnet/bumper that really looks almost the same except for the chrome grille. |
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fiend Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:31 am Post subject: |
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Hey BENJ - What's up - A week has gone by and no new postings on this thread of yours.
I am purely interested as someone is talking Fairlane front end on a wagon.
Sheeez - If you ever come to NZ Rick, look me up... You don't have long hair too do ya? |
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BenJ Cruise Moderator
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:19 am Post subject: |
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Patience my friend.
I am working on the next mod.
Re the LTD Wagon. I snapped this locally to me and quite like it.
I would seriously consider doing this if I had a wagon.
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huggiebear Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:23 am Post subject: |
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needs chrome wheel arch trims
id do it if i had a wagon also |
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fiend Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
Age:34 Posts: 496 Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Location: Wellington New Zealand
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:46 am Post subject: CHROME BITS |
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That photo of the wagon BENJ - It's got EF door handles too me old mate...
Hmmmph...
There's a UTE down the way from me with a LTD grill ** ESACTLY ** the same as what you've taken a photo of, other than the fact it is a UTE. Looks quite nice, but a little too much like a HOLDEN of earlier vintage... Don't know what makes me think "Holden" when I see it, but it is just a little... Eur... I don't know...
I have decided on a silver blue colour for my wagon (when I can afford it - could be years away yet!)... Colour is taken from a Suzuki Swift, but you can see similar on a number of those new small cars like Honda Jazz or Nissan Micra. The Suzuki silver / blue is bloody nice, as is their silver / gold. Since my interior is all black and blue, I figure I'll go with the silver blue option...
I want chrome bits in the centre of the trims (will dust off photoshop and show you...)
Am never going to have chrome rims, although once the paint is done I will re-visit the issue!
Cheers BENJ - You've been an inspiration for my interior and a source of motivation to keep on plodding away on these cold, wet, NZ days.
Hey --- What's it called when the weather clears after three days of wind and rain?
A monday. |
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FordFairmont Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:09 am Post subject: |
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'fiend' thats a nice ride you have there, but why make such an elaborate post about your wagon in Ben's EB sedan buildup thread when you have your own build thread.
And BenJ, the wash/polish really made the colour stand out, looks great |
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fiend Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
Age:34 Posts: 496 Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Location: Wellington New Zealand
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:05 am Post subject: |
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Sorry --- Got a bit carried away when I saw Huggiebears idea being so similar to mine... And the LTD front end on the old BOX style wagon... And... Well... I don't know - I think I'll go visit the doc and get my prescription altered...
SORRY BENJ OLD MATE... Rock on... Have been working on putting together my own build thread, and (some would say "god help me") the start of it will be uploaded tonight...
And FordFairmont dude - It only takes me a few minutes to do the photoshop thing, so I don't think of it as "elaborate" or somesuch.
All good tho - BENJ has my respect and here's my last message on his primo thread in relation to my own budget endevours. |
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BenJ Cruise Moderator
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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Fiend
Don't sweat it mate. No offence taken here. I look forward to seeing your build thread.
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fiend Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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Phew, no sweat old brother - just wish my rocker cover and air pipes had come up like FordFairmont boys... Never mind, next time I have a few spare days with nothing better to do I might start on polishing up some engine bits again.
All good man - let the normal service resume... I have my eyes on some GT style side-skirts that the guy can chop in the middle and add 70mm to so as to fit the wagon... $200 odd dollars I don't have!!! |
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basstrom_dave Fordmods - Smokin em up
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:58 am Post subject: |
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hey BenJ just have read the whole lot and wow not bad mate looks great, starting to give me ideas now with my EB have an EF Engine sitting here think that and a better condition trans will be first and I think I'll be referring to your guide a lot, so thanks in advance.
Can't wait to see whats next |
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PIMP_LTD Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:49 am Post subject: |
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Nice work BENJ, i love it. I still have yet to fit the EF A pillar trims to fill that gap, atleast i know they fit good now.
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