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im looking at building a 5ltr or a stroker for my sierra XR8
want something tuff , i have a AU 5ltr motor in bits any ideas on a good combo ??
it will be EFI with a autronic ECU and a T5G gearbox |
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MrLandau
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| Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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Want tuff Darren
click the www button and follow the 347 stroker link.
Shane |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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yeh
thats what i want 
looks like you've been busy with the die grinder. |
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Yeah - there is a fair bit of clearancing required to fit the Eagle competition 347 stroker into a standard roller block. Hopefully - not too far down the track, this will all be retrofitted into a DART block.
How much power are you looking for Darren?
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i would think 500+ hp would be nice
but i dont know if the T5G will handle it. and the grenada diff.
might have to look a bit milder like 350 -400 hp |
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| MrLandau wrote: | Want tuff Darren
click the www button and follow the 347 stroker link.
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hehe cheeky f**k !
do it man do it!
stuff the grenada in the bin and put ina 9" i am sure u can source all the parts..... 
comon i want to c that car at nextyrs summernats as the best sleeper around!  |
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MrLandau
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| xr8 dismantler wrote: | i would think 500+ hp would be nice
but i dont know if the T5G will handle it. and the grenada diff.
might have to look a bit milder like 350 -400 hp |
500hp is getting close to hand grenade material - even as a 347. There are components that will take it and those that won't. The standard roller block is one of those things that won't.
Of course I am cheeky this time of night
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| Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:37 am Post subject: |
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| as for the 9", DJR should be able to help you with a 9" carrier for the sierra IRS setup, cos DJR were behind getting the 9" homologated for race use in the late 80's..... |
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Disco Frank
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| Interceptor wrote: | | as for the 9", DJR should be able to help you with a 9" carrier for the sierra IRS setup, cos DJR were behind getting the 9" homologated for race use in the late 80's..... |
it got irs?
ohhh cool!
i know u can get a 9" carrier for the commondore IRS |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:11 am Post subject: |
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| MrLandau wrote: | Yeah - there is a fair bit of clearancing required to fit the Eagle competition 347 stroker into a standard roller block. Hopefully - not too far down the track, this will all be retrofitted into a DART block.
How much power are you looking for Darren?
Shane |
Are there stroker kits which don't require so much clearancing work (or none at all)? |
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MrLandau
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| Waggin wrote: |
Are there stroker kits which don't require so much clearancing work (or none at all)? |
No but there are blocks that come clearanced for the stroker cranks - they are called Darts. 
Shane |
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Actually quite impressive what they take before giving up the ghost. High PSI or high revs.... most those guys getting under 11sec down 400m....
Did you derstroy your block before going to Dart ebxr? |
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EBXR8380
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| Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:52 am Post subject: |
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No on engine stand in back shed...
I'm Marinising it and its going in a boat...
Turbo of course...
Blew a few head gasgets so to lower comp I built another block..
It was more bad tune as I thought I fitted dissy in same place, obviously not.... |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:57 am Post subject: |
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| I'd be happy with 500RWHP and keeping it under 6000rpm |
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EBXR8380
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| Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 1:23 am Post subject: |
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Imo its more abuse and high rpm.. 50 ounce external ballance doesn't help..
There is a way around this now!! Thats to fit the latest stroker kits with Zero ballance but you need different harmonic ballancer and fly wheel.Is that another excuse to stroke ???
Btw I prefere the 330 with 5.4 rod over 347.... |
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Disco Frank
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| EBXR8380 wrote: | No on engine stand in back shed...
I'm Marinising it and its going in a boat...
Turbo of course...
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mm heard a few yrs back some of the jet boat guys were buildign ford V8's that could spin to over 10000rpm all day long any truth to this? |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 11:45 am Post subject: |
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The guys in the Stock 5.0 class in the states are pulling over 9000rpm - but you are talking grout filled blocks and other trick bits. Most of them are stepping up into Dart blocks.
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EBXR8380
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| Yep but 302 R's and Mexican blocks etc are more common there..They could have also been destroked 351's ?? With 4 bolt mains fitted on there stronger webbing... |
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