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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 4:46 pm    Post subject: engine rebuild guide? Reply with quote

Hey guys, ive tried searching but i can't seem to find a guide for a full rebuild.

I know there are head gasket guides, but i need more detail for the block rebuild.

anyone know of one out there?
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Gregory's manual was very helpful, had all the important info I needed for my rebuild. Just make sure you have the right book for your engine.
Street Machine mag did a 3-part series on rebuilding the e-series I6 a few years back, but it was a bit vague. You might find it helpful.
There arent many books on the I6 ford available, so the gregorys/haines is your best bet. icon_biggrin.gif
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there was a pretty decent one in a performance ford mag a few issues back that the guys at jim mock did
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

does anyone have a copy of it?
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best Fords Issue 5, OCT 07.
Ok the scans seem to work, will do the rest if anyones interested.
When veiwing the scan in explorer, hold your mouse over the pic and click the little box in lower right corner to enlarge and clear it up.


If this is against copyright or anything, mods feel free to remove.
It's a pretty good guide and cant find anything on the web where someone could order this as a back-issue or something, would be a shame as this would be pretty helpful for alot of people.



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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use photoshop, set it to JPG and have the compression around 8, try that.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EBMontTom wrote:
Best Fords Issue 5, OCT 07.
Ok the scans seem to work, will do the rest if anyones interested.


Yeah, am interested.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

twr7cx wrote:
EBMontTom wrote:
Best Fords Issue 5, OCT 07.
Ok the scans seem to work, will do the rest if anyones interested.


Yeah, am interested.


I am interested also. This may be a bit of an ask, but I think it may be easier if you scanned it all and then zip it up as one file icon_biggrin.gif. Just a suggestion.

phong =P~
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zip files arent allowed. wont let me attach.
Any other way to put them to gether into one file?
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come on guys.... Who needs a manual....

Learning by seat of pants and experience is the best icon_wink.gif
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

arm79 wrote:
Come on guys.... Who needs a manual....

Learning by seat of pants and experience is the best icon_wink.gif

And exactly what happened to your first engine you rebuilt?
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nicko wrote:
arm79 wrote:
Come on guys.... Who needs a manual....

Learning by seat of pants and experience is the best icon_wink.gif

And exactly what happened to your first engine you rebuilt?


Ummm.. I can't remember if mine or Kyle's was first.

If it was mine, its sitting on an engine stand cos the car it was in was written off. Until then it was going very well.

If it was Kyle's, it runs regular 14.2/14.3

Anymore smart a** questions?
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What sort of results does the one on the stand get on a leakdown test? icon_razz.gif
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do know clearances, tolerances, torque settings and the like by "experience and seat-of-the-pants"? Or are you one of these wombats who just does everything up tight with a ratchet and can't see why that isn't correct? Don't encourage a rookie engine builder to go by the seat of his pants, when you know full well he will just get into trouble, and it will cost him way more than a $35 manual from super cheap.
I have been building engines for 20 years or more, and I use the appropriate manual or book EVERY time.
The scariest thing is someone with a little knowledge, who thinks he knows it all. But as we all know, the dumb ones have the best luck, so you keep going like you are, and we'll see you at the wreckers buying your parts.
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sooty72 wrote:
How do know clearances, tolerances, torque settings and the like by "experience and seat-of-the-pants"? Or are you one of these wombats who just does everything up tight with a ratchet and can't see why that isn't correct? Don't encourage a rookie engine builder to go by the seat of his pants, when you know full well he will just get into trouble, and it will cost him way more than a $35 manual from super cheap.
I have been building engines for 20 years or more, and I use the appropriate manual or book EVERY time.
The scariest thing is someone with a little knowledge, who thinks he knows it all. But as we all know, the dumb ones have the best luck, so you keep going like you are, and we'll see you at the wreckers buying your parts.


I think he was taking the piss out on some of us...hence the wink...but then again it is arm79, I can never understand what his motives are icon_razz.gif

EBMontTom, if you can't upload zips, then I think the next best thing...Word Document? but the file might be huge. If that is not your cup of tea, then I say just upload each page.

Another way, send it to their emails...you can send me the zip file to me if you want icon_biggrin.gif. phongus@optusnet.com.au

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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steady ED wrote:
What sort of results does the one on the stand get on a leakdown test? icon_razz.gif


Excellent - As expected of a new engine. icon_wink.gif

sooty72 wrote:
How do know clearances, tolerances, torque settings and the like by "experience and seat-of-the-pants"? Or are you one of these wombats who just does everything up tight with a ratchet and can't see why that isn't correct? Don't encourage a rookie engine builder to go by the seat of his pants, when you know full well he will just get into trouble, and it will cost him way more than a $35 manual from super cheap.
I have been building engines for 20 years or more, and I use the appropriate manual or book EVERY time.
The scariest thing is someone with a little knowledge, who thinks he knows it all. But as we all know, the dumb ones have the best luck, so you keep going like you are, and we'll see you at the wreckers buying your parts.


He asked for a how-to guide, which as a trainer I generally find useless. Most people learn better by disassembling and getting their hands dirty. Unless you have a factory manual, as most of the other books I have seen are wrong.

And of course you need torque figures. Which ones would you like, I can generally rattle them off the top of my head. Or if asked nicely, I'd scan and post the book page on there for the benefit of everyone. But then as the good engine builder you are, you would realise you don't need factory manuals for torque figures.

Same with clearances and tolerances as well. All the book does is give suggested clearance values, which save you from calculating the values manually.

But in my case, I give the block to a professional. Let him do all the clearance work. He has the right tools and necessary experience to do the job properly. Its not something an amateur should tackle I would think.

As to the rest of the assembly, its simply a collection of around 60 bolts and the assurance of putting the end caps the right way round, piston notches to the front and silicon on the joins between timing cover and block.

I do hope that sways your impression of me. Considering all the member's cars I've touched and worked on, and no one has had a problem or crashed and died, either I do know what I'm on about... Or I really do have some pretty good dumb blind luck so far. f**k me, I hope it holds out. icon_wink.gif

P.S. I don't scour wreckers for parts for my car. New only. icon_cool.gif

P.P.S. My comment was said more in jest than anything, aimed at particular members. They know who they are. Apologies for offending your sensibilities. icon_cry.gif
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys. I'll upload the rest when I get home tonight and I'll send phongus the zip file. If he can host it all as one file then we'll go with that and I'll delete the individual attachments.
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the jim mock one is ok but not in depth enough for beginners. best bet is to have someone with more knowledge around to overlook what u are doing and have the work shop manual or gregorys manual
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no luck guys. Even as a word doc its too big. Can I email it to someone for them to edit or host somewhere?
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EBMontTom wrote:
no luck guys. Even as a word doc its too big. Can I email it to someone for them to edit or host somewhere?


E-mail it to me...

phongus@optusnet.com.au

Label it engine rebuild...I'll try and make a PDF file out of it at work.

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