Home |  Forums |  Search |  My Profile |  Chat  Photo Gallery |  Events Calendar |  Technical Documents  No messages |  New Posts |  Watched Topics |  Register   FORUM OPEN FOR POSTING Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, ... 19, 20, 21  Next          Forum Index -> Wade Cams Latest ratings Highest-ranked posts Highest-ranked topics Highest-ranked posters   Wade Cams Commercial Sponsor Age:55 Posts: 254 Joined: 08 Nov 2004 Location: Melbourne VIC, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 11:14 am    Post subject: pHaT`eL wrote: G'day , Ive got a 98 EL Fairmont, and have been thinking about getting a cam for it. Its a hybrid motor, with an auto, extractors, exhaust, etc, and is a daily driver. Have you got anything to suit? Cheers, Pete. Pete, we're currently modifying a profile so that we can come up with a new grind for the E series hybrid engine that will be roughly equiv. to the 1636 that's proven so successful in the EA / EL non hybrid. We hope to have a master cam made before the end of the month. If you can hold off for a while, we might be able to help you. Cheers Chris Back to top Kenwood Maverick Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:25 Posts: 594 Joined: 12 Nov 2004 Location: Southern Highlands NSW, Australia View User Gallery (9) Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 11:53 am    Post subject: well whacked her on the dyno, believe to have been done wrong, i apparently lost 3kw with the new wade cam over my stockie.... based on what others were out by it was 30hp out, so with that in mind got around the 142kw mark, which is about right. so about 20kw gain without a proper tune.. im happy Back to top Grechie Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:22 Posts: 401 Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Location: Melbourne VIC, Australia View User Gallery (11) Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:40 pm    Post subject: For me. Compared the 1636, i lost ~2 kw with the 1636c977b, but to my advantage, have a more smoother power band, and much better air and fuel then the 1636, funny though, its faster in a straight line compared to the old cam, but doesnt make the same power, but that could be possibly due to the fact that there were particular things that werent identical to the last setup when it got 155.6rwkw, it had 14 inch wheels and a pod, (yes it DOES make a difference on a dyno) this time when it got 154, i had 15 inch wheels with fatter tyre (apprently 14 inch would of given me a slightly higher reading then 15 inch) & defently the most important aspect of not pulling same power, was i had returned to the restrictive factory air box, 3inch to 2.5 inch rubber crap hose, with standard air box, (K&N filter, POS doesnt flow that much better at all) and XH snorkel which still is VERY restritive + it was a HOTTER that moarning, hotter air + more restrictive air intake = of course less power. i want a redyno on a cold moarning/arvo, with now my new 3.5 inch neck Pod Filter, + XF TB 3inch snorkel and AU i6 Injectors! Back to top FordFairmont Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Posts: 2817 Joined: 08 May 2007 Location: Sunny QLD, Australia View User Gallery (1) Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 2:40 pm    Post subject: Ok, i can now safely say the 1636 profile does make a considerable improvement over the stock cam, in terms of power and acceleration. Reason i say this is, at first i could hardly notice anything and was really questioning the cam. Then i went and got the car on a dyno to see if there was any power increase..... it ran 110kw @ wheels. I was disapointed to say the least, especially since the exhaust and intake had been done as well. BUT there was always a question in my mind if the mechanic that installed the cam might have f**k the timing up and installed it wrong. Well down the track, when i converted to manual i also had the head gasket done which in turn forced us to remove the timing cover off cause we snapped a plastic guide. We had to pull the chain off and re-install and reset the timing again PROPERLY and slapped it all together. Took the car down to a dyno again and it spat out 138kw @ wheels and was still making power when the rev limiter cut out, and this was a 'conservative' dyno the operator tells me, so could have been even higher... There you go, 40hp increase from making sure the timing was set properly and converting to manual. So i say congrats to Wade Cams for putting out a great product, and a warning to all, who insist on getting some dodgy mechanic to install your cam..... learn how and do it yourself to make sure its done right or you could be driving for ages with your car out of tune and whinging how s**t the cam when is...... Back to top Wade Cams Commercial Sponsor Age:55 Posts: 254 Joined: 08 Nov 2004 Location: Melbourne VIC, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 8:57 am    Post subject: FordFairmont wrote: Ok, i can now safely say the 1636 profile does make a considerable improvement over the stock cam, in terms of power and acceleration. Reason i say this is, at first i could hardly notice anything and was really questioning the cam. Then i went and got the car on a dyno to see if there was any power increase..... it ran 110kw @ wheels. I was disapointed to say the least, especially since the exhaust and intake had been done as well. BUT there was always a question in my mind if the mechanic that installed the cam might have f**k the timing up and installed it wrong. Well down the track, when i converted to manual i also had the head gasket done which in turn forced us to remove the timing cover off cause we snapped a plastic guide. We had to pull the chain off and re-install and reset the timing again PROPERLY and slapped it all together. Took the car down to a dyno again and it spat out 138kw @ wheels and was still making power when the rev limiter cut out, and this was a 'conservative' dyno the operator tells me, so could have been even higher... There you go, 40hp increase from making sure the timing was set properly and converting to manual. So i say congrats to Wade Cams for putting out a great product, and a warning to all, who insist on getting some dodgy mechanic to install your cam..... learn how and do it yourself to make sure its done right or you could be driving for ages with your car out of tune and whinging how s**t the cam when is...... Thanks for the positive response "FordFairmont" and thanks also for sticking by the product. It's fair to say that, for whatever reason, there are times when a cam will not produce the result that it should. More often than not however, there are other factors that are responsible. Usually, it's incorrect installation. It might also be that the engine has other problems that need looking into. At the end of the day however, the customer doesn't want to hear any of that, and that's fair enough. They would rather just blame the cam. We fully understand that, it's a natural human reaction that we all fall for at times. Congratulations to you for "hanging in there". A result of 138kw is good. We would like to think that 140 to 145kw is achievable. Thanks again.......drive carefully. Cheers Chris Back to top Grechie Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:22 Posts: 401 Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Location: Melbourne VIC, Australia View User Gallery (11) Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 11:55 am    Post subject: Wade Cams wrote: FordFairmont wrote: Ok, i can now safely say the 1636 profile does make a considerable improvement over the stock cam, in terms of power and acceleration. Reason i say this is, at first i could hardly notice anything and was really questioning the cam. Then i went and got the car on a dyno to see if there was any power increase..... it ran 110kw @ wheels. I was disapointed to say the least, especially since the exhaust and intake had been done as well. BUT there was always a question in my mind if the mechanic that installed the cam might have f**k the timing up and installed it wrong. Well down the track, when i converted to manual i also had the head gasket done which in turn forced us to remove the timing cover off cause we snapped a plastic guide. We had to pull the chain off and re-install and reset the timing again PROPERLY and slapped it all together. Took the car down to a dyno again and it spat out 138kw @ wheels and was still making power when the rev limiter cut out, and this was a 'conservative' dyno the operator tells me, so could have been even higher... There you go, 40hp increase from making sure the timing was set properly and converting to manual. So i say congrats to Wade Cams for putting out a great product, and a warning to all, who insist on getting some dodgy mechanic to install your cam..... learn how and do it yourself to make sure its done right or you could be driving for ages with your car out of tune and whinging how s**t the cam when is...... Thanks for the positive response "FordFairmont" and thanks also for sticking by the product. It's fair to say that, for whatever reason, there are times when a cam will not produce the result that it should. More often than not however, there are other factors that are responsible. Usually, it's incorrect installation. It might also be that the engine has other problems that need looking into. At the end of the day however, the customer doesn't want to hear any of that, and that's fair enough. They would rather just blame the cam. We fully understand that, it's a natural human reaction that we all fall for at times. Congratulations to you for "hanging in there". A result of 138kw is good. We would like to think that 140 to 145kw is achievable. Thanks again.......drive carefully. Cheers Chris defently!, even 155 is achievable with the 1636 Back to top FordFairmont Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Posts: 2817 Joined: 08 May 2007 Location: Sunny QLD, Australia View User Gallery (1) Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 12:14 pm    Post subject: Grechie wrote: defently!, even 155 is achievable with the 1636 With just a upgraded exhaust and intake... prolly not. Maybe with some head work yes. I dont know the specs of your car but if the car pulled 155kw @ wheels with just exhaust-cam-intake then i'd assume its a very happy dyno Back to top Grechie Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:22 Posts: 401 Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Location: Melbourne VIC, Australia View User Gallery (11) Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 12:51 am    Post subject: FordFairmont wrote: Grechie wrote: defently!, even 155 is achievable with the 1636 With just a upgraded exhaust and intake... prolly not. Maybe with some head work yes. I dont know the specs of your car but if the car pulled 155kw @ wheels with just exhaust-cam-intake then i'd assume its a very happy dyno nah no head work for me buddy, and very happy dyno i think not, results speak for themselves, 14.4 quarter mile with Sh!t diff gears Back to top Grechie Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:22 Posts: 401 Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Location: Melbourne VIC, Australia View User Gallery (11) Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 12:52 am    Post subject: Grechie wrote: FordFairmont wrote: Grechie wrote: defently!, even 155 is achievable with the 1636 With just a upgraded exhaust and intake... prolly not. Maybe with some head work yes. I dont know the specs of your car but if the car pulled 155kw @ wheels with just exhaust-cam-intake then i'd assume its a very happy dyno nah no head work for me buddy, just bottom end and very happy dyno i think not, results speak for themselves, 14.4 quarter mile with Sh!t diff gears Back to top FordFairmont Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Posts: 2817 Joined: 08 May 2007 Location: Sunny QLD, Australia View User Gallery (1) Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:20 am    Post subject: I assume your taking to the same dyno each time. Try a different one. Also i noticed you said it was hot that morning, what were the ambient temps and inlet temps? If they were different then the dyno over compensates and artificially inflates figures. 14.4 is a good time, but most boxcars run quick times cause their light. Theres something about your 155kw that doesnt add up dude, especially when people are spending money on headwork and getting similar figures, if less, than that. Cheers!! Back to top FordFairmont Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Posts: 2817 Joined: 08 May 2007 Location: Sunny QLD, Australia View User Gallery (1) Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:59 am    Post subject: FordFairmont wrote: I assume your taking to the same dyno each time. Try a different one. Also i noticed you said it was hot that morning, what were the ambient temps and inlet temps? If they were different then the dyno over compensates and artificially inflates figures. 14.4 is a good time, but most boxcars run quick times cause their light. Theres something about your 155kw that doesnt add up dude, especially when people are spending money on headwork and getting similar figures, if less, than that. But hey, if you feel there is 155kw at the wheels, then thats all that matters. Cheers!! Back to top Grechie Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:22 Posts: 401 Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Location: Melbourne VIC, Australia View User Gallery (11) Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 11:42 am    Post subject: FordFairmont wrote: I assume your taking to the same dyno each time. Try a different one. Also i noticed you said it was hot that morning, what were the ambient temps and inlet temps? If they were different then the dyno over compensates and artificially inflates figures. 14.4 is a good time, but most boxcars run quick times cause their light. Theres something about your 155kw that doesnt add up dude, especially when people are spending money on headwork and getting similar figures, if less, than that. Cheers!! LOL, ok say i have less then 155, like u think it does, what do u reckon i have , ive weighed my car at our local BP weigh bridge, it is 1611kgs, and it had 1/2 tank, and it did 14.4, with 3.27's, its fine if u dont beilive me, coz i no the many 215i senators dont. Back to top FordFairmont Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Posts: 2817 Joined: 08 May 2007 Location: Sunny QLD, Australia View User Gallery (1) Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 11:52 am    Post subject: s**t thats pretty heavy. I always thought they were lighter than that. Looks like you got a freak motor then, Kudos!! Back to top Grechie Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:22 Posts: 401 Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Location: Melbourne VIC, Australia View User Gallery (11) Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 3:39 pm    Post subject: FordFairmont wrote: s**t thats pretty heavy. I always thought they were lighter than that. Looks like you got a freak motor then, Kudos!! so many people have said hehe, my 4L just loves Wade's cams Back to top Kenwood Maverick Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:25 Posts: 594 Joined: 12 Nov 2004 Location: Southern Highlands NSW, Australia View User Gallery (9) Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 4:00 pm    Post subject: wade's cams are pretty good, and it was the EA that was the lighter e series mate, the rest were all a heavier weight. love your figures grechie, will keep working the EA to see what i can get out of her Back to top Wade Cams Commercial Sponsor Age:55 Posts: 254 Joined: 08 Nov 2004 Location: Melbourne VIC, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 6:19 pm    Post subject: Grechie wrote: FordFairmont wrote: s**t thats pretty heavy. I always thought they were lighter than that. Looks like you got a freak motor then, Kudos!! so many people have said hehe, my 4L just loves Wade's cams That's so sweet Grechie....and we luv u 2. But in a purely non sexual way though. Back to top JACKOEF2 Fordmods Oompa Loompa Age:36 Posts: 34 Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Location: blacktown NSW, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:00 pm    Post subject: WADE 1636 Cam has been installed ecu has been re set but car is running to rich and the idle is hunting. Has anyone else had the same issues? cam heaps better power than stock. Back to top FordFairmont Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Posts: 2817 Joined: 08 May 2007 Location: Sunny QLD, Australia View User Gallery (1) Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:05 pm    Post subject: Did you install the cam yourself? Did you have the AFR's checked or are you guessing its too rich? Which cam is it? Back to top JACKOEF2 Fordmods Oompa Loompa Age:36 Posts: 34 Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Location: blacktown NSW, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:20 pm    Post subject: 1636 done myself cam timming spot on its a 1636 have checked it on the tune up computer Back to top JACKOEF2 Fordmods Oompa Loompa Age:36 Posts: 34 Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Location: blacktown NSW, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:27 pm    Post subject: 1636 takeing the car to autotech and getting the car dyno tuned and a piggyback chip put in . Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First             Forum Index -> Wade Cams Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, ... 19, 20, 21  Next Page 2 of 21   (c)2002-2008 Matti Jones and Brad Evans [47 queries :: 0.09848 seconds ]