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How to test for a faulty MAP sensor
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

72 bucks, send me your account details, ill pay you 80 bucks, get me one and express post it down! you sure thats for the au2 oxy sensor? if it is, check if its the 4 wire suitable for vct, autobarn here quoted me 120 mates rates!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry but this was for a sensor for my EL.

Repco customer price was $120 but they marked it down to $100.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i thought it was a tad cheap :S
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It all good fellas.. thanx for the input..
got a guy who i work with use to work with ford for 15years and we checked me car out..
someone before me had stuffed around with the idle
so we set it at the correct rpm and big vibrations through the car.
tested the ISC and map sensor.. all ok
so he said it deffintly b the ecu...
$170 (trade) from bursons for a brand new one.. icon_biggrin.gif
so that b fixed tommora..
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wah, where did talk of a rooted ecu come in!

thats the last thing i want it to be!!!!!!!

i think ill try my oxy sensor and pray...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah sometimes things go wrong inside the ecu.
I've been frantically trying to trace problems to sensors and I'm almost certain my auto ECU is f**k.
Everything seems to work fine and dandy with my manual ECU.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well we did tests on all sensors and they all work fine.
put the new ecu in today and noticed the difference straight away.. acctually idels properly..
still wish it waz like a loose connection or a $60 sensor. but hey
gotta be done. :<
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

slimjim wrote:
well we did tests on all sensors and they all work fine.
put the new ecu in today and noticed the difference straight away.. acctually idels properly..
still wish it waz like a loose connection or a $60 sensor. but hey
gotta be done. :<


Auto ECU's can be had for around $60-80! icon_smile.gif
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

voxace wrote:
OK. here is where it "should" be:




And here is how to test it:



Ignition On: 0.155-0.156KHz
Engine Idling: 0.101-0.103KHz
Engine Revved: 0.90KHz (Approx)
Idling in Drive: 0.105-0.106 KHz
Idling in Drive with A/C on or Steering Load: 0.109-0.111KHz

Of course you are going to need a Digital Multimeter to test this.


Just went out and tested my map sensor, all the values were clsoe to those above expect when I rev the engine I only get about 0.120 - 0.130KHz. I took the car for a drive with my multimeter setup in the cabin recording max freq, drove around for about 10min under different loads including a lot of full throttle. The max freq was 0.156KHz.

Would this most likey indicate a vacuum leak or a faulty map sensor? The car is an ED XR6.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I think my ECU is stuffed too. Idle is just alright if it's set to around 770 to 850RPM. But even then as soon as the air-con goes on, the rev's drop 200rpm, and end up sitting on a very rough and vibrating 500 RPM in drive. I am forced to put it in neutral everytime I stop at a red light. Either that or turn the air-con off everytime I have to stop. icon_evil.gif
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

but i dont have problems with idle

just chewing the fuel, and extremely hot exhaust... i get my oxy sensor this week icon_biggrin.gif
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Extremely hot exhaust can mean the cat is clogged.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is one thing everyone is NOT checking Engine Temperature! If the thermostat is faulty or INCORRECT range the ECU thinks the motor is not up to correct running temp and richens up the mixture accordingly This has a BIG effect on range, mine was 20l/100 kms After thermostat 14.7 l/100km Hope this helps as it has mine icon_razz.gif icon_idea.gif
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What temperature did you get that fixed it?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Almost to guage centre approx 95 deg C
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also found ONLY genuine thermostats are any use, aftermarket ones tend Not to be much good
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much are genuine ones worth from ford $$$?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure Have been out of the repair business for a while check with your local Blue oval parts distributor icon_razz.gif Whatever the price for this item it is well worth it as I have had to replace too many aftermarket ones and my repair insurance was getting tired of paying to fix blown head gaskets undar my workshop warranty icon_eek.gif icon_evil.gif
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greenmachine wrote:
Extremely hot exhaust can mean the cat is clogged.


thats the next port of call... i think the cat may well be stuffed as well. the oxy sensor went in yesterday. smoother power, more of it icon_biggrin.gif, and consumption has dropped about 10% so far (only 200 kms so far, but still above half a tank, looking good, about 500 out of a city tank im guessing)

im going to get myself a new hiflow cat, pacey 4480's (anyone put these on the au vct yet?) and redback 2½ exhaust, and some sort of pod setup with the madrel intake im getting, along with the tickford snorkel. setting me back a total of just over 1300 icon_sad.gif thats still a month or two away though :'(

as for the exhaust, i still have the burn mark on my leg. i accidentaly touched the tip of teh exhaust and it sillzed the f**k out of me. first car ive ever seen that happen on.

finally, ecu wise, any easy way of testing it? i really think its fine, but you guys have instilled doubt in my mind! :S
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