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Waggin
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 Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:07 pm Post subject: MoTeC is going in this weekend! [MoTeC is IN!] |
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Well, theres been alot of talk about the motec going in soon.. but its going to finally happen.
I decided I'd post it up in public to help motivate myself 
Wish me luck!
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| Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:31 pm Post subject: Re: MoTeC is going in this weekend! |
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| Waggin wrote: | | Wish me luck! |
Good Luck!
Should be awesome man, and I hope everything goes well.
So your trying for the 200rwkw+ barrier? |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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good luck with it
how much is it costing u? |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Tell us how it goes. Please post about how it goes. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:47 am Post subject: |
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Finally..  |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 2:14 am Post subject: |
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| good luck waggin!!!! it shouldnt be too hard for someone wit 1337 skillZ like you |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 10:43 am Post subject: |
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its about f**k time bloke
hope it goes well. i may give u a call and drop round |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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Good luck with the install...having a dyno before and after?
my wagon will one day be like yours 
Cheers |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 1:27 am Post subject: |
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| justfordima wrote: | Good luck with the install...having a dyno before and after?
my wagon will one day be like yours
Cheers |
I've had a before dyno.. it was running so rich that the Wideband AFR meter was reading lean  109RWKW. LOL
I think that night on the news they reported heavy pollution in SW Sydney. hehehe
Thanks to all for the encouraging posts.. time for a bit of an update on Friday's events.
Arrived at Fordmods HQ at around 2pm (yep, about 4 hours late) with MoTeC, Wiring Loom and Laptop in hand.. ready for business!
After an hour of f@rt about, the first wires on the existing loom were snipped, and we were underway.
The following things have been connected, calibrated, tested and confirmed A-OK
Power (woo!)
Throttle Position Sensor
Injectors (Sequential!)
Fuel Pump relay
Crank Ref
Cam Ref/Sync
Connected, but unsure of functionality
MAP Sensor
Air Intake Temp
Still To Do
Coil Pack and Igniters
Engine Coolant Temp
Idle Speed Controller
Thermo Fans
A/C Clutch Request
Pwr Steer Full Lock
Knock Sensor
I'm happy with what was completed today.. quite a breakthrough, considering its something i've been talking about doing for a while. lol. Hopefully she'll be firing by the end of Sunday, which will leave us with Monday to sort out any bugs and try and get a base spark and fuel map so the car is drivable.
Having a near flat battery and 0KM to Empty flashing on the Trip Computer makes life interesting... sort that out later.
Whats it all costing? Nothing. Bought the M800 about 6 months ago, and bought the looms 2 months ago... its just blood, sweat and tears remaining. Would really help if I had a workshop manual to reference schematics from... had to hand my borrowed EF manual back.. anyone offering a loan for the weekend?
Thanks to Dave (as usual) who was lending a hand.. and the rest of the wonderful team at Fordmods HQ 
Sleep time.. |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Motec now thats a word I recognise, Chris has the set up in the shed ready to go on the XT. Now thats something worth talking about... |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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A bit more progress today
hopefully it should be running tomorow arvo
We just need to go on a nice little field trip ,
nice 9am Start ! HINT HINT WAGGIN |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 12:45 am Post subject: |
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LOL.. well Saturday's effort was pretty slack.. I think I rocked up to Fordmods HQ around 4.30pm.. so much for aiming to get there before midday
Today we figured that the Ford MAP sensor isnt compatible with the MoTeC, as the MoTeC only accepts voltage signal MAP sensors, and the Ford MAP sensor uses a frequency signal.. so at atmospheric pressure, the MAP reading was jumping from 30-100kpa 20 times a second.. strange! Looks like we'll be using a MAP sensor from (wait for it...) a VN Commodore Lets hope the wreckers are open Sunday!
Sorted out the igniters for the coilpack. Since the MoTeC doesnt have inbuilt igniters like the EEC-V does, we needed to source something to fill the shoes of the EEC-V's inbuilt EDIS system. Thankfully thanks to an inside tip from an engineer at MoTeC, I managed to pick up 3 Bosch J121 Ignition Modules.. commonly found in 90's models V6 Magnas.. got 3 for $30.. cant complain. Better than the 3 channel Bosch igniter from MoTeC for $400+
Anyway.. thats all we really got thru today.. fingers crossed we'll have a MAP sensor, some spark and we'll be off (after we find a battery with charge, and get some fuel in the tank)
More updates coming soon! |
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About that Trip Computer/0Km to empty : You should be able to use an EB/D trip computer or internals shouldnt you? - they dont use the Data Line for info they read the fuel tank, and injector pulse-width directly. Would be a reasonable work-around if you could make it all fit in.
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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Thank God!
So we should be seeing it on the next cruise running perfect...... |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Spider_GT wrote: | Thank God!
So we should be seeing it on the next cruise running perfect...... |
Yep, 30th April to Bathurst!
I'm making the trip up from Canberram least you could do is get your car running
g/l
I'm waiting the arrival of my EEC tuner gear. (reader/burner/chip) Already got software an dhave been playing around with it. |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Waggin wrote: |
Would really help if I had a workshop manual to reference schematics from... had to hand my borrowed EF manual back.. anyone offering a loan for the weekend?
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Sorry, I have been a little busy. Ive got all the schematics for all the e series off a mate that was a ford sparkie, so gimme a call if you still need them. Good timing huh |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:36 am Post subject: |
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i thought the motec would have had its own map?
cant wait to see how it goes, its frustrating the first few k's, but you'll learn the program quiclky and then it becomes rewarding.
once you get the idle good, its easy from there
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| Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 10:13 am Post subject: |
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| Nigel wrote: | About that Trip Computer/0Km to empty : You should be able to use an EB/D trip computer or internals shouldnt you? - they dont use the Data Line for info they read the fuel tank, and injector pulse-width directly. Would be a reasonable work-around if you could make it all fit in.
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Hey Nigel.
Trip computer is displaying 0KM to empty cos there is actually no fuel in the tank I'll be retaining the EEC-V just for DOL, so I can run Climate Control, Trip Computer, Cluster, Smartlock and all the rest... it will just have a minimal amount of sensors hooked up to it to allow it to function. Naturally injectors and spark wont be connected to it |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Tuesday morning show and tell!
Updates from Sunday's work...
We had a successful outing to the local wrecker (On Easter Sunday!!) thank god they were open. We found a VN Commodore and stripped it of its 1 Bar Delco MAP Sensor. Works a charm! While I was there I also spotted an EA Falcon with Koni Adjustable shocks in the rear. They only watned $25 for the shocks, perfect condition.. so we took them
Back to Fordmods HQ, hooked up the MAP sensor and it was reading a steady ~100kpa. The 3 Bosch Ignitors were wired into the loom, so they're now ready to provide ignition (Ford slogan: we have ignition!). Over the course of the weekend I realised that the MoTeC loom which I purchased is missing some of the pinouts on the connector plug, so I'll have to get onto Motec this week and arrange some new pins and wires. Sadly it was missing 2 Ignition outputs (the loom only catered for those running a single coil (dizzy)) and its also missing all of the 8 Auxillary outputs.. so I cant hook up thermo fans or idle control 
So still to do:
Connect Ignition to MoTeC
Idle Speed Control
Thermo Fans
AC Request
Pwr Steer Idle Request
Knock Sensor
IAT
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HEGO
Turn the key
Hopefully next week she'll fire up.
Thanks for listening.. any questions? |
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