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fritzz
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| CHEF wrote: | Well done getting a turbo on your car but that cheap turbo will most likely give you dramas, but your up and running anyway... just expect to have to buy a real turbo at some stage.
Dont try to run those big injectors off the EEC, it wont even start.
Get yourself a good ecu, install it, put your injectors and pump in and get it on a dyno opperated by someone who knows the ecu well.
I ran mine on eec for ONE day without anyboost, and nobody has ever got 300wkws from an unmodified eec.
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if i new then wat i know now.i never new that the turbos were s**t when i burght it, it just looked to good to be tru. but i still bort it anyways.
i dunno wat ecu to buy ems 8860 or wolf v4 wat u use guys think??
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| i say wolf easier to deal with i reckon. although joe doeas the stingers for $1650 or therebouts fitted and tuned.
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tickford_6
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| efutura5spd wrote: | | i say wolf easier to deal with i reckon. although joe doeas the stingers for $1650 or therebouts fitted and tuned. |
wolf are only easy to deal with if have troubles on wednesdays..
try to call them on any other day and no one answers the phone!!!!!!!!
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6BOOST
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I can't believe you have been silly enough to boost the thing without even putting it on a dyno and checking the AF. You say it hasn't detonated?? How the hell did you blow the heag gasket man?? Ummmm, yeah, detonation. The factory computer DOES in fact read boost pressure, it reads up to 11psi, which is where fuel cut is, and all TIAL 44mm gates in australia that I know of have a 1 bar spring, go and look at the side of your box, bet the spring rating says 1 bar.
Even on 6psi with no reg or fuel pump, your AF ratio would be over 14/1. WHen you are hitting fuel cut at 11psi, your probably more like higher than 14.5/1. Regardless of if you put fuel pump and reg on it, it will still boost to 14psi and hit fuel cut. Without going off about it, I'll say nicely that your quite silly if you continue to keep driving it with no ecu or fuel mods.
I'm aware your dad has built many many tough cars, and you've probably learned a lot from him, but this isn't some carby V8 big block. You can't just bang the turbo on it and hope for the best. I will also say that if you go and put a better head gasket in it, it then won't be the weak link, the next time it runs lean will probably melt a hole clean through all 6 pistons.
After you've done about 3 more head gaskets and 1 or 2 bottom ends, take the time to put a computer, injectors and fuel pump in teh thing, tune it, and enjoy 500hp reliably, rather than being silly with the thing.
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EBXR8380
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OR atleast pull the spout out and lock timeing at 20*..But it still doesn't help in fuel ratio....
42's and cheap ecu the 6's don't require a high $$$ ecu to make reliable power....
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fritzz
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| Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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| 6BOOST wrote: | I can't believe you have been silly enough to boost the thing without even putting it on a dyno and checking the AF. You say it hasn't detonated?? How the hell did you blow the heag gasket man?? Ummmm, yeah, detonation. The factory computer DOES in fact read boost pressure, it reads up to 11psi, which is where fuel cut is, and all TIAL 44mm gates in australia that I know of have a 1 bar spring, go and look at the side of your box, bet the spring rating says 1 bar.
Even on 6psi with no reg or fuel pump, your AF ratio would be over 14/1. WHen you are hitting fuel cut at 11psi, your probably more like higher than 14.5/1. Regardless of if you put fuel pump and reg on it, it will still boost to 14psi and hit fuel cut. Without going off about it, I'll say nicely that your quite silly if you continue to keep driving it with no ecu or fuel mods.
I'm aware your dad has built many many tough cars, and you've probably learned a lot from him, but this isn't some carby V8 big block. You can't just bang the turbo on it and hope for the best. I will also say that if you go and put a better head gasket in it, it then won't be the weak link, the next time it runs lean will probably melt a hole clean through all 6 pistons.
After you've done about 3 more head gaskets and 1 or 2 bottom ends, take the time to put a computer, injectors and fuel pump in teh thing, tune it, and enjoy 500hp reliably, rather than being silly with the thing.
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thankyou for that 6boost!
the wastegate actualy come with a .8bar spring but i put a .3bar in it before i even started putting it together so it running on around 5psi
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fritzz
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| good to see that u joined fordmods 6boost, thanks for the exellet job u did on the manifold. how long till the 6boost.com site gets up and running??
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| Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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| That looks really neat, and beastly dude... I might be heading down to waroona early next week for the day, if I see you around Ill stop for a chat.
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Wow that's a very neat turbo install.
And as for the car, what a sleeper!
Nice work so far, but definately get an EMS or something in there.
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Dude i saw you the other day in the HJ's carpark in bunners. Was wondering if that cooler was fake or not. Well done! Lets meet up and have a drag haha!
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fritzz
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| Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| ha true didnt see you. no draging yet, im jst keeping it of boost for now. should of come had a chat
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fordman351
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| fritzz wrote: | | ha true didnt see you. no draging yet, im jst keeping it of boost for now. should of come had a chat |
Ahh you were with your work buddies. I was in the Total Eden Mazda Bravo ute lining up in the drive thru. Ill look out for ya next time you're down 'ere.  . By the way im trying to get some locals with nice Falcons/Fairmonts together to go on a bit of a mini cruise maybe on a thursday night sometime. What do ya reckon? Show those VL guys a thing or two haha!
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fritzz
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| Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 12:11 am Post subject: |
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| yeh i com down there every friday for tafe, but last friday was my last day for the year. i sould be able to get a few down there for a crusie. there is a heap of ppl with hot e series cars in waroona. one of my mates car looks exactly the same as your your but white he also has tafe on fri. might be able to get a nother phyco turbo falcon down there as well
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fordman351
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| Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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| fritzz wrote: | | yeh i com down there every friday for tafe, but last friday was my last day for the year. i sould be able to get a few down there for a crusie. there is a heap of ppl with hot e series cars in waroona. one of my mates car looks exactly the same as your your but white he also has tafe on fri. might be able to get a nother phyco turbo falcon down there as well |
Went out to Waroona the other day, jeez i didn't remember it being THAT far outta town  . I can see why your not down here that often lol. Found the best driving road though, out toward the dam. ANYWAY... back on topic lol.
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| Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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| looks nice and neat man well done
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