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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess it wouldn't be classified as E-Series, but i thought there was also an 800hp odd XH XR8 ute in WA.That could be right that he wants to Supercharge it, but for the 6's its a hell of a lot easier and cheaper to get a turbo kit for it.  Having a PD blower on a 6 would be fairly unique.  To whole most power thing out of cars is s**t, especially E-Series.  They're no where near some of the newer cars.  But in the end, look at how reliable any of them are. haha
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that xh xr8 ute from, u are talking about has recently made 914rwhp, thats running a vortech on a 347 Windsor

and the sprintex supercharged el xr6 has made 440rwkw and run 10.1 down 1/4
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

schnoods wrote:
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is that whipple blown EL in WA

which one would that be?

The heritage green(IIRC?) XR6, whipple, motec, slide throttlebody, water to air cooler and a 10 second pass.
Its been in magazines and s**t.

Where the hell have i been!

Remind me next time you are over schnoods. I have a write up from a a mag of it. Very tough car. Was running 10s on stock internals (from various E series models).

It's no the heriatige green any more. It did use to be that colour though (I think). It's that lighter green that is found in the AUs as well now.

It runs a 2300 SRM screw compressor supercharger. It's an insane piece of engineering, and the owner is very nice and talkative about it. I remember racing him at the drags in my XR8, and I just watched him kill me from beginning to end, skipping all he way down the track to run an 11. There has been a LOT of money spent there though.

I remember hearing a while ago it was back in the shop being rebuilt with top notch interals. I don't knw if he unched it, or if he is doing it before it goes, but it was a monster before, so I can't wait to see what come of it when it is re-done.

The XH XR8 as fritzz said is a Vortech V7 powered 347 built by MWS.
Click here for a link to the MWS site and some details on the car.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

schnoods wrote:
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is that whipple blown EL in WA

which one would that be?

The heritage green(IIRC?) XR6, whipple, motec, slide throttlebody, water to air cooler and a 10 second pass.
Its been in magazines and s**t.


Where the hell have i been!


Last time I saw the Dentist he was pulling the whipple off and putting a T88 or GT45 on it (not sure of the details there).....He was buying an engine every 3-6 months or so with the whipple, it was never reliable....but then again they WERE pushing the envelope looking for every last hp and the tune was always on edge.

I think I've covered this before, turbo systems are more efficient, both adiabatically and how they extract their power from the engine, as long as your above 12psi or so and both are sized to make roughly the same air flow.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heres a PD m90 or m112 on a Holden six. anyone notice a piston rod used as a bracket? icon_lol.gif

one of the toughest sounding 6 I've heard. you'll think is a big block until you have a closer look. icon_eek.gif



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slick wrote:
Heres a PD m90 or m112 on a Holden six. anyone notice a piston rod used as a bracket? icon_lol.gif

one of the toughest sounding 6 I've heard. you'll think is a big block until you have a closer look. icon_eek.gif

thats an eaton m90?, ya gotta love the design of those extractors icon_smile.gif
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is that whipple blown EL in WA

which one would that be?

The heritage green(IIRC?) XR6, whipple, motec, slide throttlebody, water to air cooler and a 10 second pass.
Its been in magazines and s**t.


thats a nice xr6, ill post the whole article on photobucket tomorrow.



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KeedleZ has a whipple on his e series. best setup Ive ever seen, you can hardly even notice its there. So stealthy.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hope this works:
http://s285.photobucket.com/albums/ll49/redford_album/furious%20falcon/


id love to see this on a 3.9\4.0 i6, .."Twin M90, Twin Screw" icon_cool.gif
http://forums.wildhorsesclub.com//showthread.php?t=10051
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan i've just fitted a Raptor supercharger to my BA 6 ute and it's awesome.Fitted it myself in a few hours.
You actually do get boost from idle but it justs gets better as the revs build.
As for it being harder and costlier to fit than a turbo that's garbage ,actually cheaper as i don't need all the heat management crap associated with a terdbo.Not dissing terdbo's they go great but it's a heap more work and it can get exy.This i know as i've done both.
Mate PM me if you need to know more.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barking up the wrong tree there BC... a centrifugal blower (ie Raptor) is a completely different animal to the Positive Displacement blowers this thread is about.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeash i know but it's flippin' easier and cheaper than a terdbo.
Used to Skipper prawn trawlers and the GM's we used were Blown and turboed.
Drove pilot boats in the Torres Straits,one of em had twin 892's with the works B and t'eed ,got sacked for using too much fuel didn't i.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yeash i know but it's flippin' easier and cheaper than a terdbo.


and it doesnt perform as good.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No it doesn't work as good it works better for what i need it to do.Much better.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it just me or are these Raptor things being pushed flat out on here suddenly?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry mate i'll tone it down ,i'm just a big kid.
Actually my neighbour said i was like a kid after the "R thing" went in my car,i told him i was telling on him and he was a big fibber.
I showed him.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No it doesn't work as good it works better for what i need it to do.Much better.


What did it cost you buy and to fit? How much power is it making?

As good as all the new people on this site say they are I refuse to believe they can outshine a well sorted turbo system.

Prove me wrong.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kit cost a little bit less than retail,you've obviously got a computer.
I fit it myself with no instructions as my disc drive is US and the instructions were on a CD.The MAP sensor was the hardest a pain to get out and a newy back in.
Stock BA is supposed go to around 300 EKW but untill i hit a dyno get my STOIC sorted bigger CAT and stuff i won't know .
I run a 290 Boss today he got the jump but my "R thing"started to walk slowly past him, i know the guy and he was as surprised as me.
Let's be friends please.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Website says POA mate.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ring the guy then,email him send smoke signals ,as i say you've got a computer, i GTG.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL at BC... yeah, the BA kit goes for $5200{barra 6} also less for the E series. even less if anyone is interested in a group buy.

Like badcooky said, lets all be friends. lol
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