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IMPRTETA
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fritzz's oil seal in the turbo went..
were do u guys run ur turbo water lines to and from? i think i've plumbed mine wrong. |
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fritzz
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| yeh for some reason the seal on the turbine side as gone, and its pissing out oil. also did a comp test and all cyl's were around 175-185psi but number 4 wich was 120psi then i did a wet test on number 4 and it went to 135psi. valve seat??? |
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ebs_4l
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ok, on a std ea-ed, you will find a small (3/8) hose under the inlet manifold, which is a heater bypass hose, it joins the two steel heater pipes together, all ive done is join one of the steel pipe outlets to one side of the turbo, and the other pipe to the other side... your turbo now becomes the heater bypass and you will have flow through the core
i want to have a look at your crankcase breather setup fritzz, the only time a turbo oil seal (especially on a new turbo) should leak is if there is pressure buildup against the turbo drain... becuase during normal operation, there isnt any oil pressure against the seal
unfortunately, it sounds like you have killed your engine... you shouldnt have any more than 20psi maximum variance between cylinders... a wet test simply seals the rings with oil, if you get an improvement from a wet test, then you have ring/bore damage... and, i'd possibly link that to excessive blowby causing crankcase pressure which has caused turbo seal trouble??????????
hope im wrong, to prove otherwise, you need to pump the cylinder up with compressed air and have a listen at the tailpipe and throttlebody to see if you can hear any valve leakage, you will most likely hear a lot of air leaking into the sump, pump up a few cylinders and compare the amount of blowby you can hear |
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fritzz
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| Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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yeh i did my water lines exactly the same a ebs_4l.
the engine still runs fine so thats all i care about, until the new 1's built.
the funny thing is it only blows blue smoke when cold or driving slow and idling allot. any other time its fine. its not the engine ether because the spark plugs are nice and dry and clean ports in turbo manifold are also clean.
when i removed the turbo, then removed the turbine housing of the turbo there was lots of oil in that hollow cover between the turbine wheel and turbo core.
i will admit that the crack case breather setup was crap. it only had one 1/2" line with both rocker cover outlets tee'd into it. but since the turbo has been of i am now constructing it using two 1/2 lines to catch can. witch i know is still not enough but for this engine it will do. |
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redfin
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| Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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| redfin wrote: | | Steady ED wrote: | A nice car in Melton SOUTH?
Bet you got a good lock on the garage  j/k
I'll have to keep an eye out for that car redfin, looks like a monster!
You had it down the strip? |
Soon Bro, soon. Valve springs need evicting, found some better tenants.. LOL Once they're in and it's tuned back up, we're off to see what she'll do. |
Did a few runs about 4 months ago, at Heathcote. PB was 12.606 @114mph. Half a tank of gogo lotion, spare and tools in boot, street tyres and trim. Still haven't done the valve springs, but maybe soon. |
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ebs_4l
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| Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| my breather setup consists of two -10 hoses from the rocker cover to a custom catch can.. the i.d of -10 hose is 1/2in so you should be fine with two hoses like you said |
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fritzz
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| Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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| any idea of y only number 4 cyl would drop so low?? |
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ebs_4l
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| Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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| maybe it was the weakest link, maybe it detonated?? maybe it has a broken ring?? |
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fritzz
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| Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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| lol o well as long as it runns fine it will be driven. sorting my new engine stuff now |
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fritzz
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| Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| ebs_4l wrote: | | my breather setup consists of two -10 hoses from the rocker cover to a custom catch can.. the i.d of -10 hose is 1/2in so you should be fine with two hoses like you said |
by the way u have 5/8 hoses  |
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ebs_4l
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| Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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i said, the I.D of -10 hose is 1/2in.. which it basically is
i know -10 is meant to be 5/8, but the i.d is actually .56", which means the i.d of -10 hose is actually closer to 1/2 than it is to 5/8.... |
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fritzz
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| Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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| lol i see now, at work i make up alot of high pressure hoses and have always known -10 as 5/8 |
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ebs_4l
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| Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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yea, do you know how -10 relates to the size 5/8?? since hoses come in 1/16 increments, -10 means 10/16, if you shrink that down by dividing both by two you get 5/8......
i am specifically talking about the speedflow hose here, which is .56id. id say most other -10 5/8 hoses WOULD be .625 or 5/8 as the name suggests |
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Slabz
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This is what i've just finished doing on my holidays. Its a stock 4L with backyard exhaust manifold, KKK (BorgWarner) K27 turbo, ebay external wastegate with screamer pipe, turbotech boost controller and 3" dump/front pipe to twin 2.25" exhaust. Its running 4psi at the moment until i get an intercooler or water injection sorted. i kinda went nuts with the matt black too  |
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TURBOTAXI
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Some form of intercooling will be good, you will probably find it will spool faster and stronger with cooling (I know that doesnt make sense from an intake length point of veiw.)
Be wary of the heat on your throttle cable, they can get too much heat and get stuck (hopefully not at full throttle).
I can see you have vented the rocker to atmosphere, that is illegal, but I found I acheived better crankcase pressure reduction with a plumbed back catchcan. When you plum to intake you get a light vacuum on the line.
Good luck with it. |
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| Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:50 am Post subject: |
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| TURBOTAXI wrote: |
I can see you have vented the rocker to atmosphere, that is illegal, but I found I acheived better crankcase pressure reduction with a plumbed back catchcan. When you plum to intake you get a light vacuum on the line.
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unengineered turbo setups are illegal too.
as are screamer pipes
venting the rocker breather is the least of his worries, but who cares
good work |
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TURBOTAXI
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| Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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| EFFalcon wrote: | | TURBOTAXI wrote: |
I can see you have vented the rocker to atmosphere, that is illegal, but I found I acheived better crankcase pressure reduction with a plumbed back catchcan. When you plum to intake you get a light vacuum on the line.
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unengineered turbo setups are illegal too.
as are screamer pipes
venting the rocker breather is the least of his worries, but who cares
good work |
I suppose you are right. |
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Slabz
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| Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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I know its illegal as hell but i don't care. That rocker cover breather is fresh air coming into the crankcase. It still is sucked you through a PCV vavle via a catch can to the intake manifold. Accelerator cable is already pretty cactus but thanks for the heads up.
i'm not gonna get an intercooler, i can't fit a decent sized one in with some rather serious angle grinding plus i don't want the turbo to be any laggier than it already is. Hence, water injection is the way to go, i'll post some pics when i get that happening. |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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Dude, for f*cks sake everyone knows by now to use an interccoler... you need to cut 2 holes, thats all 
If water injection worked as well and as easy a decent front mount, we would all use it... its good as a add on to use with an intercooler, but by its self your wasting time |
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Slabz
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| Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:38 am Post subject: |
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| CHEF wrote: | Dude, for f*cks sake everyone knows by now to use an interccoler... you need to cut 2 holes, thats all
If water injection worked as well and as easy a decent front mount, we would all use it... its good as a add on to use with an intercooler, but by its self your wasting time |
it'd be two holes and sections out of the bumper supports or out of the front bar. I'd have ground clearance issues with a 600x300 because i have to put it too low to be able to get to the outlets. I'm doing the water injection on the cheap anyway so if it falls in a screaming heap THEN i'll look at intercooling. |
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