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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will be posting more pics shortly as the setup progresses.
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From Vortech site go down to page 3 describes how fit return line to sump...O/k V8 but much the same....
http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/pdf/manuals/4FG218IM.PDF
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah thanx, i was planning to pull the sump off and drill it and then weld a boss to thread into. Im just wondering if that will be strong though. Have you tried it. I dont think 1/4" will be big enough for me so i'll just have to make it bigger.
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey,
Does anyone know where i can download a workshop manual for cars.
I need one that tells all d specs, wiring diagrams, etc.
Any info would be great.
Thanx.
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could someone tell what fuel pressure i shopuld be running when the turbo is working. I know that 39psi is stock.
I am putting an adjustable fuel regulator on it and an extra inline fuel pump.
Will these two mods be enough to run 6-8psi boost with standard injectors and ecu.
If not, what would be suffice for the 6-8psi boost.
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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats a trial thing...I'd say wind it up to 50 Lb....
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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SAM08U wrote:
Could someone tell what fuel pressure i shopuld be running when the turbo is working. I know that 39psi is stock.
I am putting an adjustable fuel regulator on it and an extra inline fuel pump.
Will these two mods be enough to run 6-8psi boost with standard injectors and ecu.
If not, what would be suffice for the 6-8psi boost.


Despite the bad press these items receive, i think you should be looking at a >1 rising rate regulator to run boost thru the stock 19# injectors. For example, i use a 12:1 reg... at 6psi boost this is running more than double the standard fuel press and effectively increases inj flow from 19# to around 30#... also running a chip tuned to suit this reg... its rough on the injectors and pump tho... very rough.
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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh ok,
Do they run off how much boost the turbo is producing os sumthing else to make the fuel pressure rise. What are they worth and where can i get a cheap one.
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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SAM08U wrote:
Oh ok,
Do they run off how much boost the turbo is producing os sumthing else to make the fuel pressure rise. What are they worth and where can i get a cheap one.


Spot on. A factory regulator behaves in a similar way... (for every 1psi increase in manifold pressure, there is a 1psi increase in fuel pressure). In the above example (the one I use) for every 1psi increase in manifold pressure, there is a 12psi increase in fuel pressure.

A cheap alternative to large injectors and aftermarket ECU... but even then, i dont know how you'd go with facotry ECU...

Personally i wouldnt buy a cheap one... the consequences of such a unit failing can be fairly nasty. I use a vortech reg, from CAPA as it came in the supercharger kit. These are worth $300 - $400.

http://www.capa.com.au/prices_vortech_fuel.htm#vortech_fmu

Or ebay for around $100 USD:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7973954706&category=33553

And some good info on how they work:

http://www.capa.com.au/vortech_fuel.htm
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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah dat sounds good.
So what you are saying is dat if i pushed 10psi into the manifold-fuel pressure increases to 120psi.
Is that how much fuel is needed.
What ecu are you using since you are running 6psi as that is all i am planning to boost at or do you push more.
Would an extra inline fuel pump be enough to pump the fuel.
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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much for the inline pump? A replacement 255lph unit only around $200... would be good...

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=50138&item=4549594599&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Mr Landau of these forums was selling walbros damn cheap but i think they would be long gone... might be worth contacting him tho as he is a commercial sponsor of the site.

Yeah if you pushed 10psi you'd be looking at 120psi fuel press... i'm running a stock ECU with a chip programmed by CAPA, designed for use with the stage 1 kit on a stock engine.... I run about 6-7psi... stock injectors, stock fuel pump (for now, lol).

If you plan on running this on ECU with no mods... just go EASY on throttle and listen for detonation... back timing off....

BTW you need to add BOV to your list of parts....

ANd i dont know of anywhere to download workshop manuals.... order them online from www.pistop.com.au for around $30.. has basic wiring diagrams and ECU pinouts etc...
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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh really, thats good to know dat you have a stock ecu and injectors.
So if i run only 6-8psi i caould get away with stock ecu and injectors for a while.
Will the stock injectors handle 120psi.
I will start looking for the rising rate regulator - 12:1 you think.

BOV is a must in my parts list. Probably a Turbosmart megasonic - just a personal favourite.
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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What air/fuel ratio should i have at 6-8psi. As i am planning to put a A/F gauge on it.
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