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pyroay
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For those of you who have doubts about the under seat mounting for midbasses i should point out not only have i found this to be the best method, the Head Sound Quality judge in Australia at present uses 8" midbasses mounted in exactly the same manner and has had them there for some years.
His is one of the best sounding cars i have ever heard.
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Hmm you nearly have me convinced lol!  I need to do something soon to the front stage in the XR... mabe a 2 or 3 way system is in order
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these 8" mid bass speakers - what are they, are they subs or actual speakers.
Cheers
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| Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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They 8" are midbasses
Just like a 6" speaker only bigger, they do not have huge surrounds or big magnets like subs.
Subswoffers have different characteristics and aren't designed to play the same frequency range.
PS if you wait a couple of weeks i think i will be selling off the 7" midbass pods from lisa's car.
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| pyroay wrote: | | PS if you wait a couple of weeks i think i will be selling off the 7" midbass pods from lisa's car. |
Hmm interesting... Pods or speakers.... or both.
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| Well i was thinking just pods as speakers are near new but if someone want the lot i can work something out
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| pyroay wrote: | | Well i was thinking just pods as speakers are near new but if someone want the lot i can work something out |
Hmm well it depends what price you would want for em and what kind of gear it is... However saying that i cant have any real intrest in it until about a month or so away lol! 
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| excellent write up man. Very motivating!!!
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks, i will try to get one up on Subwoffers soon as well with a few others to come.
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| I am currently in negotiations with a plastic moulder to have my original the A pillar design mass produced. (by masss produced i mean limited sets say 20 pairs) i'll keep you all informed.
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| Thats given me so many idears thanks, good stuff
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| 2qik wrote: | | Just for thought... you can also mount the tweeter here (red circle in pic). When I put mounted mine here I retrimmed the triangular section in cloth so the tweeter's invisible, only diff is instead of being flat panel it will be the shape of a tweeter. That's if you want discrete installation (less likely to get broken into?) |
Just be aware there is a significant difference in sound mouted in that location as opposed to the A-pillar.
The size of the sound waves at the frequency's played by tweeters is very small and only a few cm can make a huge difference.
I tried the sail pillars during tuning and found the A-Pillar to be much better for imaging and staging cues.
Unfortunately car audio often comes down to
Budget Vs Form Vs Function
Often times it is simply not practical to mount the speakers you want where you want but that doesn't mean that is not the best location for them to be in...
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My method for midbass is a little different to what most people would do, but then I am not most people.
I use a Canton 3 way set which comprises a 1 in tweeter a 5 in midrange and a 10 in midbass. I now have the tweeters mounted in the sail area and find with this style of tweeter it works exceptionally well. Best of all the door trim can be reverted back to standard and look untouched which is a big bonus.
Cheers, Outlawxr6
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| Looks nice but how do you revert the door trim nback to standard with a 10" driver mounted on it?
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It is really easy the mounting panel only covers the area that the original pocket covers so once removed I can just put the pocket back on. Because of the slope in the basket I was able to fit it without removing any exposed material of the door trim itself, and these 10's are 100mm deep with a cast basket!!!!
The cut out portion can simply be glued to the back of the pocket and no one would ever know.
Quite easy really, Outlawxr6
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I would have thought a 10" would need a much larger enclosure to perform to it's optimum.
The DLS 6.5" require 20litres and the DLS 8" midbasses require 25-30litres, which is 1c/f.
I would have thought the 10" would need at least .8c/f to have a smooth freq response and not be peaky in the lower midbass?
How do you find the freq response in that location? have you had it measured?
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I am sure that a whole car door is more than 0.8cuft so that isn't a problem and they play nice and flat down into the high 30's......
Cheers, Outlawxr6
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The door would be fine as an enclosure but how does the speaker vent into the door unless you have cut the area behind the map pocket? which would then be seen when the pocket is back on.
Do you have a pic?
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The door trims have been cut but have been done so in such a way that the removed piece can be glued to the map pocket and the re-attached to the door trim and viola, never been modified!!!!!!!
No pics at the moment but I will see what I can do if my speakers sell I will obviously have to remove them and I will get a pic then for you.
Ciao, Outlawxr6....
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