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Maxxr6
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| bert on your forklift what happens when you rev the engine when you are lifting the load, i think it goes up faster because you are increasing line presure like closing the reg at high rpm |
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Bert
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| Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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I work on forklifts because that actually pays better than the car industry. The aftermarket car industry is full of dreamers, s**t artists and ripoff merchants, I got feed up after 3 months. Car dealerships are boring, pay poorly, and train you so you have no future propects. Its funny how I now service/repair the forklift of my old dealership. In addition I get treated well, car, phone and fuel. It was a job I fell into.
There are no jobs on the Gold Coast/Brisbane in Electrical Engineering that pays enough money that you can live on. No I am not s**t you I have one in Electrical/Communications.
You are obviously a very arrogant person who thinks they are better than everyone else because they just simply opened their mouth and breathed.
I APPOLOGISE I give really bad analogies that you can't understand. I bend over so you can paddle my a** for my mistake.
I will try to explain it to this last time. A fuel regulator serves one purpose, to maintain a constant fuel pressure as the fuel is discharged into the manifold. Therefore it has to be able to go down when the mainfold is showing vaccum and up when it is showing pressure (boost). This is achieved by connecting a vaccum line to the diaphram of the regulator. You check the base fuel pressure with the line disconected. The fuel pressure goes down at idle and cruise, hook up a pressure gauge and look yourself.
Now the magic part. The base fuel pressure is set on the factory Bosch regulators by spring pressure onto the diaphram restricting the fuel return. Pressure is pressure regardless whether I am pushing on the diaphram with my finger, a spring or pressure (fluid or air). I have proved that the factory Ford regulator will go up in pressure to AT LEAST 50psi. Regardless of me squeezing the regulator in a vice in order to apply more spring pressure or via manifold pressure to the fitting on the diaphram the fuel pressure WILL rise.
I refuse to reply to anymore of your pointless posts in this thread so don't get b**ch because you still have not properly read what I wrote earlier that CHEF instantly understood. |
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ToranaGuy
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Nice to know that the factory reg will cope with 50psi. This means someone else wanting to build a mild turbo setup, has one less part to replace.
A question i have tho, what does it flow like @ that pressure, is the flow a linear equation, or does it drop off?
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Spork
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| Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for clearing that up bert.
So if the standard fuel pressure is about 34 Psi this means that you could run up to 16Psi of boost on the standard fuel reg and it will still be able to control the pressure accross the injectors at a constant 34 psi.
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Unless your injectors are undersized there is no need for a "rising rate". Especially with aftermarket EMS as this will make tuning more difficult. |
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Bert
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I said at least 50psi. I expect it will do higher than this and I will find out when I get around to turbochaging my car, hopefully by November. I only raised my fuel pressure to ensure enough flow and get (hopefully) better atomisation with my disc injectors.
A rising rate reg will always give a skewed fuel table. This is very bad if your ecu tunes by VE not injector rate. |
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sickd
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| Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:10 am Post subject: |
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ok so i could run 10psi out of a turbo on my ef xr6 with the reg its got
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dont flame me i just want a confident yes that there will be no problems at all |
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CHEF
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| Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:23 am Post subject: |
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| Yes, I am and its fine |
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bogan
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:27 am Post subject: |
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hey CHEF what turbine and compressor A/R's are you running and when does boost come on.
cheers |
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CHEF
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:02 am Post subject: |
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Ex is 1.04, comp 0.60. Boost gets to positive (0 psi) at 2200, 14psi ( or whatever max boost is set to ) at aorund 3000 rpm.
Basically, soon as you touch the throttle it get on boost and hits max very fast |
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sickd
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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| my turbo is a ex 1.06 and .50 or .60 will this boost up fast ? |
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CHEF
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, it depends on many more factors than just housing AR's... exhaust manifold, exhaust system, wastegate,comp ratio, fuel A/F ratio and advance timing off boost all play a big part in reducing lag. Get it all right and your motor is on boost quickly... get them all wrong and you'll have tonnes of lag regardless of the turbo and its specs... |
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corey munday
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:51 pm Post subject: turbo exhaust manifolds |
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| will that manifold on your ed flow up to 300rwks? |
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corey munday
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:55 pm Post subject: turbo exhaust manifolds |
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| will that manifold on your ed flow up to 300rwks? |
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CHEF
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah,
I dont think its would be a limiting factor in getting 300. In my view, 300wkws is obtainable from more boost and a bigger exhaust and better ignition mapping. The XR6T manifold is very close to a stock NA manifold and they are used on many 300plus wkws motors |
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heljas
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| Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| how do i get a printable version of this thread |
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CHEF
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| Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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| right click, print. |
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Big Kev
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| Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| CHEF wrote: | | right click, print. |
Wont print the whole thread tho will it just this page ?????? |
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CHEF
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| Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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| should do the whole thread... allways does when i print a thread |
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kdford
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:33 am Post subject: |
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Nice setup Chef, been watching it for a while now.
When you get your new zorst are you going to make the screamer pipe off the wastegate longer? Ive been told that a longer pipe that joins further down the main pipe gives you better spool up times even if it doesn't give you higher kw's. |
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CHEF
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Maybe, but that will mean making a new down pipe aswell which I doupt I'll do... lag isnt really an issue for me so I dont see the need for it. I ve made loger wastegate pipes for my previous cars in the past and yeah, they can aid in spool, especially with small turbos on smaller cc motors |
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