Home |  Forums |  Search |  My Profile |  Chat  Photo Gallery |  Events Calendar |  Technical Documents  No messages |  New Posts |  Watched Topics |  Register   EF Quirks Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3          Forum Index -> 6 Cylinder Workshop Latest ratings Highest-ranked posts Highest-ranked topics Highest-ranked posters   barjesnad Fordmods Parts Gopher Age:41 Posts: 85 Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Location: Adelaide, Northern SA, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 9:00 pm    Post subject: You have my sympathy. Maybe it would be cheaper to sell your car and get another one. Thats if you havent gone too far. Sometimes its better to cut your losses. and remember when your in a hole stop digging. Back to top comhelp Fordmods Tyre Shredder Age:25 Posts: 391 Joined: 06 Nov 2004 Location: Melbourne VIC, Australia View User Gallery (1) Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 9:06 pm    Post subject: barjesnad wrote: You have my sympathy. Maybe it would be cheaper to sell your car and get another one. Thats if you havent gone too far. Sometimes its better to cut your losses. and remember when your in a hole stop digging. yeah well i wouldn't mind doing that except i have finance on the car and plus i cant afford, really, to put in a couple of thousand extra to get another one, plus all this work i am doing to it, i am also building it up so hopefully it will be better and not f**k up as much Back to top barjesnad Fordmods Parts Gopher Age:41 Posts: 85 Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Location: Adelaide, Northern SA, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 9:13 pm    Post subject: Money sucks It stops us all from getting our dream cars. Mine is a EL GT in green. seen one for $35000, 65000 kms, in car yard. Back to top comhelp Fordmods Tyre Shredder Age:25 Posts: 391 Joined: 06 Nov 2004 Location: Melbourne VIC, Australia View User Gallery (1) Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 9:22 pm    Post subject: there was on ebay not too long ago for around $25,000 i think Back to top barjesnad Fordmods Parts Gopher Age:41 Posts: 85 Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Location: Adelaide, Northern SA, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 9:24 pm    Post subject: Still too much for my budget, but nice car. Back to top JR Fordmods Newbie Posts: 14 Joined: 20 Nov 2004 Location: Adelaide SA, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 10:13 am    Post subject: EF's are a good car, but they are all machines, and all have faults and quirks. I've got 295000 on mine now. At 230 the head went, and I opted to go for an AU motor (yes it can be done) as the motor was getting to the point of needing a freshen up. This cost $1800 with a new clutch. The radiators are another weak point if they are not looked after. Ford tended to leave a little bit of foundry sand in the blocks, and this slowly blocks up the radiators. The sign that your radiator is blocking up is that you are getting visible coolant flow in your top tank. The cure is to get your radiator core rodded and cleaned. The only other problems I've heard about, is high km diffs, (mines getting a bearing fitted as I type), and something about the A/C compressors in the ealy ones. The best thing you can do is go to a Ford (Holden,Toyota,etc) specialist wrecker in your area, and ask what parts they sell the most of on whatever model your looking for. They definitely know which parts they can make money on. Back to top stikky Fordmods Parts Gopher Age:40 Posts: 62 Joined: 19 Nov 2004 Location: Wacol QLD, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 4:08 pm    Post subject: Ta JR I know what u mean about radiator probs. I have first hand experience with my EB now I'm paranoid about the temp gauge and cooling system even after fitting a higher capacity radiator (definately worth the few extra bucks). I pick up the EF next week after it gets a full flush tranny service and the owner had the radiator flow tested not long ago so fingers crossed all should be OK. and yeah they are only machines that wear out and they certainly aint new anymore. A lot depends on what kind of a life its had since new and thats usually an unknown with a second/third/fourth hander. especially if one of the owners was a young bloke (It wasn't that long ago and I remember the caning my cars got). cheers Back to top Stevo Fordmods Tyre Shredder Posts: 383 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Melb VIC, Australia View User Gallery (4) Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:02 pm    Post subject: i had a ef ghia.. I had the brake switch near the pedal go a few times.. tensioner pully gave up, fuel pump, and rear seal in the gearbox only these things in 3 years, The car had done 250,000 when i sold it, and i still miss it. It was a great car, and was still going hard. Back to top Rik_Biel Fordmods Parts Gopher Age:37 Posts: 87 Joined: 12 Nov 2004 Location: Perth WA, Australia View User Gallery (5) Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 10:43 pm    Post subject: I am the 2nd owner of my 1995 EF I bought it at 30,000km in 1997 and it's now up to 225,000km Overall, all things considered, given teh number of Kms driven it is a very reliable car. I keep a detailed spreadsheet of what I do to it. Here's a "cut'n'paste" extract of the things that have been done over the past 7 years - I've deleted the obvious things that get done to all cars over time (plugs, filters, leads, flushes, etc); Replace door actuators Replace thermostat housing Replace speedo transducer Fuel injector service/sonic clean Replace rocker cover gasket Replace drive belt Replace radiator cap Replace thermostat Replace front disc rotors - once with standard Ford, recently DBA slotted Front suspension general tighten up Replace Ignition Coil pack Replace MAP Sensor Replace Crank Angle Sensor Replace Harmonic Balancer Replace ECU Replace air con compressor Replace air con condensor Replace air con receiver/dryer Air con gas R134A Cylinder head work Head bolts Valve seat guides/lifter kit Head gasket Brake light pedal switch Replace radiator Replace LPG Convertor Replace Fuel Pump Add transmission cooler Front wheel bearings Replace Fuel Pump control relay Looks like a long list, but in 7 years and almost 200,000kms it aint bad Back to top bowsaw Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:43 Posts: 4370 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Karratha WA, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 12:11 am    Post subject: Re: EF Quirks 4.9 EF Futura wrote: stikky wrote: Does the EECV with its mass air flow sensor adjust to warmer cams better than EECIV setups? Inline 6 cylinders do not use the mass airflow technique. These are only employed by EB-AU V8 engines with both EEC-IV and EEC-V. An EF sill uses vacuum pressure (MAP) to measure the amount of air entering the engine. Accordingly, the EF EEC-V will have the same ability to adjust to warm cams as EEC-IV Inline 6 did/does. Quirks for the EF - may want to read up on the distributorless ignition system (i.e. coilpacks). There were a few problems with EDIS in the EF which caused ford to go back to distributors for the EL. The problem arose in the ignition part of EEC i believe. I was under the impression that they went back to dizzy, to save costs for the upcoming AU . And then AU got coil packs. Back to top twason Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Posts: 2088 Joined: 06 Nov 2004 Location: Canberra - The Nations Capital ACT, Australia View User Gallery (9) Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 6:29 am    Post subject: I would echo Rik_Biel comments. I am the 2nd owner of my 1996 EF (Wife actually) I bought it at 79,000km in 1998 and it's now up to 198,000km Overall, all things considered, given teh number of Kms driven it is a very reliable car. I agree. Replace thermostat housing (LPG mod to keep water flowing in LPG convertor at all times) Fuel injector service/sonic clean (LPG related in my case, I should run on petrol more often to keep them in service) Replace drive belt (last one lasted over 100000) Replace radiator cap (twice) Replace thermostat Replace air con compressor (done out of warranty by ford,but for labour costs only) Replace air con condensor (stone hit it, not EF's fault) Replace air con receiver/dryer (usual with above) Head gasket ( times 2, Monotorque lasted 25000, installed a genuine ford one the second time, no problems since) Brake light pedal switch (I believe they have a tendency to fail if you brake hard, I put my failures down to towing, extra lights attached to the switch) Replace radiator (failed recently for the first time, installed a heavy duty one and cooling working very well now) Replace LPG Convertor (whole system actually with a tickford one, best move yet, previously a Impco setup) Replace Fuel Pump (Noisy in my case,I think this is typical of LPG cars as they are at or near empty all the time, in my case the filter sock had perished combined with a dirty fuel load at some stage) Add transmission cooler (standard if factory tow pack installed) Most recently then Crank endplay issue, even with this major problem , if you can work with spanners then there a great and cheap car to run (LPG helps with day to day costs) and I would recommend them. Cheers TW. Back to top 1 SLY 97EL Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:38 Posts: 1826 Joined: 06 Nov 2004 Location: Bayside, Brisbane QLD, Australia View User Gallery (3) Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 7:38 am    Post subject: Well since we are on the topic of repair lists here is my rundown: 7/1997 EL Falcon with 186315kms on clock I've deleted the obvious things that get done to all cars over time (plugs, filters, leads, flushes, brake pads, tyres and Injector Cleans etc); Replace Drivers side mirror Replace all shocks Replace all dash bulbs and 1 gear selector bulb Replace Standard Airfilter with K&N Replace Radiator cap Replace thermostat Replace front disc rotors - with DBA slotted Replace Driver side Idler arm and wheel bearing Replace waterpump Replace Serpentine drive belt Twice have Air con re-gassed with R134A Replace Coolant overflow tank Replace 1 headlight, 1 brake light, 1 side indicator light Replace all 3 Relays Replace Distributor Cap and Rotor Button Not bad aye. nothing major as you can see( touch wood) Back to top stikky Fordmods Parts Gopher Age:40 Posts: 62 Joined: 19 Nov 2004 Location: Wacol QLD, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 8:04 am    Post subject: Those lists look like standard fare for any car thats done that number of k's The list for my EBII @ 220 000 looks very similar cheers Back to top stikky Fordmods Parts Gopher Age:40 Posts: 62 Joined: 19 Nov 2004 Location: Wacol QLD, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 8:11 am    Post subject: Quote: I was under the impression that they went back to dizzy, to save costs for the upcoming AU . And then AU got coil packs. yeah I read that too and there was some other things they deleted for the EL for same reason can't remember what though. I was also reading that they changed coil suppliers for the AU due to the reliability problems in the EF coils. Anyone know if new EF coils are made by new supplier or if AU coils will fit an EF? Back to top Bug Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:26 Posts: 467 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Tweed Heads NSW, Australia View User Gallery (1) Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:36 am    Post subject: time to add my 2c. Got it with 115k/km on it. (EF series 2) Head/bolts/gasket solenoid on gas tank 1x power window brake discs/pads wheel bearings shocks brake light switch diff recon tail shaft rear axle (last three most people generally shouldnt be faced with, but someone did bad things in this car) These were the must do mechanical work and im now on 160,000km and the car runs better then ever. Back to top ndroo Fordmods - Smokin em up Age:22 Posts: 204 Joined: 06 Nov 2004 Location: Kurri Kurri NSW, Australia View User Gallery (2) Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 9:54 pm    Post subject: I know its not an EF but i have an EL...so similar really... ive done the following inhibitor switch (my fault broke it) Rear right hand side wheel bearings and axel seal (seal was the prob but in the EF/EL you need to replace bearings @ the same time due to the setup) Radiator cap few bulbs here and there in the dash gearbox serviced springs and shocks all around (guy before me must have towed a lot, they sagged) - replaced with king springs n munro gt's windscreen (stone chips...cracked became a prob for rego) radiator was done just before i bought the car exhaust system had rusted out (car lived on the beach) small rust patch about size of 10c piece removed from passenger rhs above the wheel. And thats it. I have not owned it long, from the condition of the right hand side on the front i think it was hit (repaired brilliantly) but there is a defect in the mud guard, the spring in the front left was new, as was the tire in comparason to the rest of the car. I think thi could possibly be the cause of the radiator being replaced too however i am unsure. I am about to get the following attended to in the next 6 months Aircon repaired - hardly gets cold i think its up for a regas recycled air vent arm broken, typical ef/el problem...full dash out job to fix...one day drivers seat needs replacing (252,000kms) resrpay (stone chipped to hell) Tappet noise top of engin...only goes for 10 seconds in the mornings but its enough for me to know theres something up...normal non perfectionist people wouldnt even notice it prolly. 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