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Tomek Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 1:35 pm Post subject: Whats your opinion??? |
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| Just bin looking at some of the screens, came across Sony. I know that their speakers arnt that good, but what say their screens and DVD? Just wondering if any one has used this brand screen or DVD? |
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covers Fordmods Stock as a Rock
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Tomek
Just bin looking at some of the screens, came across Sony. I know that their speakers arnt that good, but what say their screens and DVD? Just wondering if any one has used this brand screen or DVD?
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yes ur right there speakers r s**t, but there dvds n screens would be up there wid da best id imagine. they make good televisions so i cant c y their incar screens would be s**t.
but in sayin that i hav neva seen em. |
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Daniel Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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Son make their televisions; they dop not make their incar lcd screens!
However, this does not render them of s**t quality, still very impressive IMHO. |
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Vibrate Fordmods Tyre Shredder
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 10:37 am Post subject: |
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| i thought they were a bit overpriced for wat they are |
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EL XR8 Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah their speakers are s**t.
But i got a Sony 7-inch motorised in dash screen and it hasn't given me any problems so far, and the quality is really good.
I personally can't complain about it. |
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Rapier Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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| afaik its only the sony car speakers that are s**t, all other sony stuff is still good, there h/u infact ( ithink anyway) up with pioneer and alpine |
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Tomek Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Any one had problems with dead pixels??? |
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Daniel Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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I have a sony widescreen tele at home, i know its not incar, but its very very good quality and no dead pixels.
Then again, ive had no dead pixels out of any of my 3 lcd screens, i can honestly say working with lcd screens that there isnt that many with dead pixels, and the ones that i have seen go have been replaced by warrenty, even the cheapest ones we sell.
I know it doesnt say much for car lcd screens, but lcd technology certainly has come some way in the past 5 years, but still sucks with sports LOL!
Fkn low refresh rates!  |
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Tomek Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Daniel wrote: | I have a sony widescreen tele at home, i know its not incar, but its very very good quality and no dead pixels.
Then again, ive had no dead pixels out of any of my 3 lcd screens, i can honestly say working with lcd screens that there isnt that many with dead pixels, and the ones that i have seen go have been replaced by warrenty, even the cheapest ones we sell.
I know it doesnt say much for car lcd screens, but lcd technology certainly has come some way in the past 5 years, but still sucks with sports LOL!
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Yep but then again you could say that CRT screens are better because they can get true (i think 16 million coulor) where as Plasmas and LCDs need higher voltages which arent possible to sustain so it basically flickers through differnt colours really fast. All screens have there ups and downs. From what i read only two brands offer a warranty on dead pixels i think its Samsung and Acer.. One of them having a one year warranty the other 1 week.
Oh and its also good to hear that they have broken through the 100" barrier with LCD's |
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offyaguts Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:21 am Post subject: |
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| I've just puchased a Sony 7' fully motorised screen (DVX-77) and the Sony DVD player that is compatible with this headunit (DVX-11A)....haven't got them in the car yet but i'll let you know how they turn out. |
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Daniel Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Tomek wrote: | | Daniel wrote: | I have a sony widescreen tele at home, i know its not incar, but its very very good quality and no dead pixels.
Then again, ive had no dead pixels out of any of my 3 lcd screens, i can honestly say working with lcd screens that there isnt that many with dead pixels, and the ones that i have seen go have been replaced by warrenty, even the cheapest ones we sell.
I know it doesnt say much for car lcd screens, but lcd technology certainly has come some way in the past 5 years, but still sucks with sports LOL!
Fkn low refresh rates!  |
Yep but then again you could say that CRT screens are better because they can get true (i think 16 million coulor) where as Plasmas and LCDs need higher voltages which arent possible to sustain so it basically flickers through differnt colours really fast. All screens have there ups and downs. From what i read only two brands offer a warranty on dead pixels i think its Samsung and Acer.. One of them having a one year warranty the other 1 week.
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1st of all, CRT (glass screened conventional style televisions) are in most cases of higher picture quality over your Plasma/Rear Projection/Projection and in some aspects LCD screens also.
Of course if you are comparing a cheap nasty CRT to a true HD capable LCD you will be kidding yourself to believe the CRT is better.
CRT’s also have their main down factor or size/weight of the unit itself – if this can be considered acceptable by the owner, there is almost no other reason to why they should not choose CRT over Rear Projection/Plasma/LCD so long as they can find one of good quality and within the size desired.
Generally rule of thumb is CRT widescreens won’t be produced above 86cm in the diagonal due to cost and technology limitations.
An 86cm Sony CRT for an example retails at anywhere from $4500 to $5500 and this is mostly due the ether 86cm size, if you were to go to 76cm it would be considerably cheaper.
Anyway, off track there – LCD screens currently arent available any larger than 93-95cm on the diagnalin retail however soon we will be seeing them a bit larger, and with an even larger price ticket. Majority of people cannot differentiate the colour differences between CRT and LCD unless in a dark scene where the black area of the picture may look slightly “patchy”; however most people wont notice unless looking for it or its pointed out.
Also majority of companies now offer Pixel Protection which allows replacement of the unit with a brand new item if 2 or more dead pixels are found OR are within the middle 75% of the screens viewing area. (This may not apply to computer monitors)
I have an ACER PC LCD monitor due the fact when I brought it, it was considered to be of high quality and came with a good warranty with pixel protection – I have yet to experience any problems with pixel drop out.
Although for In-Car use, its simple, LCD all the way, no way im lugging round a CRT television in my car!
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4.9 EF Futura Moderator
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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re: dead pixels. This usually occurs at point of manufacture and/or distribution. Any decent retailer will fully test each and every LCD/TFT screen for dead pixels before sending it out.
And pixel protection makes for piece of mind  |
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One Drone Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Actually these days LCD screens are better than their CRT counterparts, due to the now 12ms and faster response times! However, you will have to make sure you get an LCD screen with this as I am not entirely sure if this has become a standard or if only some companies use such technology. |
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Daniel Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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| 4.9 EF Futura wrote: | re: dead pixels. This usually occurs at point of manufacture and/or distribution. Any decent retailer will fully test each and every LCD/TFT screen for dead pixels before sending it out.
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Exactly right, and if the Screen is opened and found to have any "dead" pixels you will find they will swap the screen over right away no Q's asked - it doesnt happen often but its know about and seen to by manufacturers these days, I would not let it put you off the technology entirely.  |
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Tomek Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Seeingwe are talking about such screens.... Whats everyone thinking with the competition between DVD-HD and Blue ray??? |
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Daniel Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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| One Drone wrote: | | Actually these days LCD screens are better than their CRT counterparts, due to the now 12ms and faster response times! However, you will have to make sure you get an LCD screen with this as I am not entirely sure if this has become a standard or if only some companies use such technology. |
It is not a standard as such however 90% of LCD's on the market these days that are current products will be of this ms rating or if not higher.
Even with the highest ratings LCD's arent perfect with sports, find the best one at your desired retail store and ask for them to demonstrate some sort of sport, ie: football/golf/rugby/maybe cricket.
Im not saying that its "that" bad, but its noticably worse than CRT no matter how fast they are at todays technology levels.
Knowing this I still own multiple LCD screens, honestly its techology I would hate to live without personally. |
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joolz Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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| CRT dont you mean Cathode Ray Tube hehe just though id add that!! |
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Daniel Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| joolz wrote: | | CRT dont you mean Cathode Ray Tube hehe just though id add that!! |
Haha, didnt wanna state the OBVIOUS now did I?  |
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joolz Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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| with all these new LCD, plazma, projectors and so on, in the very near future CRT tv's will be a thing of the past and we will be in a throw away world where the parts to repair these items cannot be replaced and if they could it will cost more than a new appliance! its happening now as my old man has been a tech for the past 30 years and has gone through the era of valves to transistor then IC's and now in most cases its cheaper to buy a new vcr than to have them repaired. But must admit he is handy to have when buying a new appliance as he is the one that should know whats good and whats not. Sony is very well built and has high quality standards. If only LG made in car monitors as thay are also a very good brand believe it or not. |
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Daniel Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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| joolz wrote: | | with all these new LCD, plazma, projectors and so on, in the very near future CRT tv's will be a thing of the past and we will be in a throw away world where the parts to repair these items cannot be replaced and if they could it will cost more than a new appliance! its happening now as my old man has been a tech for the past 30 years and has gone through the era of valves to transistor then IC's and now in most cases its cheaper to buy a new vcr than to have them repaired. But must admit he is handy to have when buying a new appliance as he is the one that should know whats good and whats not. Sony is very well built and has high quality standards. If only LG made in car monitors as thay are also a very good brand believe it or not. |
I dont see CRT's becoming a thing of the past any time soon - I mean eventually yes, but there is still way too much production going into them and they are also the cheapest technology to mass produce and for people to buy.
Not everyone wants to speand money on tv's and in most cases people wish to spend $1000 and less, crazy people i know but they exist as a majority!
I know 1k sounds like a bit of cash, but it will most certainly not buy a family sized tele in LCD or Plasma technology...
Also I gota say some of LG's stuff looks nice, but i honestly would touch the crap unless you are getting a very very generous/off the back of a truck offer!
LG cut corners on what they offer in most features - you will find even most of their higher end modles dont even have your basic (re: v basic!) RCS style inputs on the front of their screens for gaming consoles..this may not bother some, but it shows how they cut off the things not everyone wants - also their build quality leaves alot to be desired to be honest.
Not bagging LG, god knows they look pretty nice for the price, but id much rather hitachi/sony/samsung/fujitsu or even panasonic if i had to! |
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