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fnp Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 12:29 am Post subject: |
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| MYLO_XR6 wrote: | | sorry to say, but thats a very POOR time and horsepower output from a methoned BIG BLOCK |
9 seconds is POOR? Why, could you run a faster pass on a pogostick or something? |
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Epitome Fordmods Stock as a Rock
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:37 am Post subject: |
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The power needed for every second reduced in ET grows at a geometric rate.
Our engine is vertually stock. Other than being bored out .030" (hence 468cid) all it has is a mild cam and a balanced bottom end. The heads are stock factory items with no porting or polishing work done. It makes an estimated 450hp at the crank.
I share the car with my mate and our combined point scores put us in the lead of the WA state title. At least until this saturday, when the last event of the season is held.
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Hyena Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 12:30 pm Post subject: Re: QUOTE - quarter mile times have u run or a friend has ?? |
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1. BA XT 6 with zorst, extractors, cai, 3.08 open wheel diff
7. 14.7@96mph |
That's pretty impressive with that diff an auto and only minimal other mods in a heavy a** BA! Any other mods ? Did you pull those times consistently ?
Anyone else with BA's doing similar times ? I would have thought low 15s were more likely...
Fordfreak, hows the new engine going ?
Do you think there's more in it ? I assume you haven't got the uni chip tuned yet ?
My times (which again people are probably sick of hearing )
1. EF Futura, 5 speed manual, 3.45 LSD, It's performance stage 4 I6 NA
2. Weight ? I dunno, what ever an EF weighs - prolly abotu 1550 + my 70kg
3. ranges from 150-175rwkw depending on the dyno and how the stock ECU is feeling that day!
4. Prolly about 8/10 but neither the clutch nor tyres allow high rev clutch slipping launches...
5. WSID - 20 degree air temp
6. 3.45 LSD and s**t 185 width burnout stockies!
7. 14.4 @ 91 mph
8. 60 foot - 2.1
I'll be trying for a 14 flat with better tyres and more agressive launch when I head back shortly  |
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4.9 EF Futura Moderator
Age:27 Posts: 8658 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Adelaide CBD SA, Australia
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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| FPV_GTp wrote: | 1. Ford CD cortina 1968 2 dr 351C/C10auto/9inch diff Normally Aspirated
2. car + driver +fuel = 1325kgs
3. DynoDynamics dyno 227kwatts@6500rpm
4. 9.99 out of 10
5. Calder park details on ticket
6. 28in tall by 9inch wide slicks 4.11:1 ratio nine inch diff
7. 10.835 seconds @ 115.16 mph has gone quicker
8. 60ft = 1.546 has also improved
1968 CD cortina 2 door powered by a 351 cleveland 2V closed chamber heads Holley street mominater manifold 4 barrel double pumper carby C10 auto 9 inch diff mini spooled 4.11:1 ratio . ON my dyno it produced 227kwatts@6500rpm and ran all day long 10.8 seconds weight of the car with driver was approx 1325kgs NORMALLY ASPIRATED and to date has run best of 10.71seconds@123 mph car was sold last year to someone in Ballarat.
The group of sponsors where trade people that use my mechanical services and some of the sponsors where Ante's doing. they all sponsored him well over 7 years. |
That is animal. You must have rocks in your head piloting that at 115mph!!! lol
Mylo - what a silly thing to say. Let's see your efforts at producing a 9 second drag car. |
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downingj Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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This is a bloody great thread
Gives me a bit more of an idea of what my baby will pull
I'd love to see more BA times.... |
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MYLO_XR6 Fordmods Tyre Shredder
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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MAN! you aint listening, YES its fast, but for its category, its POOR!
Prostock 500ci cars are running in the 6's in the states now (no metho), but this methoed drag car is hiting 9's?
Kingswoods with 350's are hitting 9's man with race juice! |
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Epitome Fordmods Stock as a Rock
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| MYLO_XR6 wrote: | MAN! you aint listening, YES its fast, but for its category, its POOR!
Prostock 500ci cars are running in the 6's in the states now (no metho), but this methoed drag car is hiting 9's?
Kingswoods with 350's are hitting 9's man with race juice! |
US Pro stock cars run 800+ cube mountain motors, naturally aspirated. 815-820 cubes are most common.
Please note:
| Quote: | | Our engine is virtually stock. Other than being bored out .030" (hence 468cid) all it has is a mild cam and a balanced bottom end. The heads are stock factory items with no porting or polishing work done. It makes an estimated 450hp at the crank. |
People we race against can't believe the times we run with a motor that has had so little done to it. |
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FPV_GTp Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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LOL brings back memorrys back from 15 years ago when Bob Gliden was the only Ford prostocker Ford amongst a feild of chevy boys and he ripped the all for a long periode
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fordfreak ef Cruise Moderator
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:06 pm Post subject: Re: QUOTE - quarter mile times have u run or a friend has ?? |
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| Hyena wrote: | | fnp wrote: |
1. BA XT 6 with zorst, extractors, cai, 3.08 open wheel diff
7. 14.7@96mph |
That's pretty impressive with that diff an auto and only minimal other mods in a heavy a** BA! Any other mods ? Did you pull those times consistently ?
Anyone else with BA's doing similar times ? I would have thought low 15s were more likely...
Fordfreak, hows the new engine going ?
Do you think there's more in it ? I assume you haven't got the uni chip tuned yet ?
My times (which again people are probably sick of hearing )
1. EF Futura, 5 speed manual, 3.45 LSD, It's performance stage 4 I6 NA
2. Weight ? I dunno, what ever an EF weighs - prolly abotu 1550 + my 70kg
3. ranges from 150-175rwkw depending on the dyno and how the stock ECU is feeling that day!
4. Prolly about 8/10 but neither the clutch nor tyres allow high rev clutch slipping launches...
5. WSID - 20 degree air temp
6. 3.45 LSD and s**t 185 width burnout stockies!
7. 14.4 @ 91 mph
8. 60 foot - 2.1
I'll be trying for a 14 flat with better tyres and more agressive launch when I head back shortly  | hi all?hyena... had my unichip tunes same day as the drags on the wed... did 157 rwks after the tune at granville autotech... wasnt sure about the 4th gear dyno runs though... spiro said my engine was one of the more powerful n/a he's dynoed there... for sure it has more in it... though the car hits the limiter in 3rd (3.45 xr diff) 15-20 m short of the finnish line... n the engine has a slight missfire between 1400-2500 rpm... changed the fuel filter, spark plugs are 4000 km old, just installed new ignition leads... mayby injectors are dirty? although i did do a 2.0 60 footer.. 235/45/18s n a 14.64 so not too bad but yes, i do believe when the engine frees up a bit more n sort out the slight missfire there is more from my engine to come... + better times... |
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eed-250 Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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hyena and fordfreak.
ur mph's seem low?
hyena 14.4 @91mph? that mph is really low for a 14.4! i would be thinking ud be up around 95-96 mph? |
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Hyena Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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I dunno mate, that's straight off the timeslip!
I haven't got them in front of my now but I think there were a few runs around 93?
Fordfreak I have the same issue with 3rd gear - if you hold it out you'd gonna hit the limiter in 3rd otherwise you've barely into 4th as you cross the traps. If you run slightly lower profile tyres you get through the gears that little big quicker. I'm up for new tyres shortly and I'm gonna try and squeeze some 355s on my rims. That should give more traction off the line and a bit lower profile in height too (as a function of the width, it's just the way it works out)
175rwkw seems to be eating through my clutch though. I can't hold 2nd gear burnouts anymore because the clutch slips. It's still fine on the street though so not worth replacing yet just for a better ET.
What did you pull on the autotech dyno prior to tuning ? I assume it was dyno dynamics ?
I only did a low 150 at powercruise a few weeks back, although the engine was pretty hot after belting around the track  |
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eed-250 Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Hyena wrote: | I dunno mate, that's straight off the timeslip!
I haven't got them in front of my now but I think there were a few runs around 93?
Fordfreak I have the same issue with 3rd gear - if you hold it out you'd gonna hit the limiter in 3rd otherwise you've barely into 4th as you cross the traps. If you run slightly lower profile tyres you get through the gears that little big quicker. I'm up for new tyres shortly and I'm gonna try and squeeze some 355s on my rims. That should give more traction off the line and a bit lower profile in height too (as a function of the width, it's just the way it works out)
175rwkw seems to be eating through my clutch though. I can't hold 2nd gear burnouts anymore because the clutch slips. It's still fine on the street though so not worth replacing yet just for a better ET.
What did you pull on the autotech dyno prior to tuning ? I assume it was dyno dynamics ?
I only did a low 150 at powercruise a few weeks back, although the engine was pretty hot after belting around the track  |
355's damn!!
maybe its that last change 3rd into 4th slowing ya down?? do u flat change it?
i dont have as much power as u guys but i got a 3.45 and im changing into 4th alot earlier.. although i have a huge flat spot anything over 4600 in 3rd. |
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Hyena Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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haha, typo! that should have been 255s
I don't flat change as such, I'm reasonably nice with the gear changes although 3rd to 4th is very quick anyway. I shift on redline |
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fordfreak ef Cruise Moderator
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:18 am Post subject: |
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| my timeslip... on my road tyres... 235/45/18s... so you mean try a 225-255/60/15 or something close to that hyena? on the back wheels... could bolt up light 205/60/15 to the front for less rolling weight n wind resistance... figured out it might be my coil pack thats givving my engine a slight miss between 1400-2500 rpm at up to half throttle applications... not sure of the before figure prior to the tune but after Spiro did the dyno tuning the car definatly felt just a lil more athletic through the gears... not sure about the dyno manufacturer... must be good though cos Granville autotech have a pretty good buisiness... and alot of happy customers... |
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fordfreak ef Cruise Moderator
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:21 am Post subject: |
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sorry..heres my timeslip.. dont like hitting the limiter just short of the line... ... never did that with the old 3.23 single spinner... when i had traction!  |
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fordfreak ef Cruise Moderator
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:27 am Post subject: |
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| after unichip fiddling by "Spiro" oh yaeh... is "dyno dynamics" |
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Hyena Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:04 am Post subject: |
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| fordfreak ef wrote: | | so you mean try a 225-255/60/15 or something close to that hyena? on the back wheels... could bolt up light 205/60/15 to the front for less rolling weight n wind resistance... |
I couldn't be a*** putting skinny wheels on the front and really I think that's a bit of a toss unless you're running times a good few seconds less than us.
But yeah on the back the last time I went my burnout rims were something like 185-55-15 or something. The skinny width and lower profile made for a pretty tame launch because you couldn't rev it up much but the smaller rolling diametre made up for it a little once moving and made it a bit quicker through the gears |
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fordfreak ef Cruise Moderator
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:26 am Post subject: |
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| i definatly like my 2.0 sec 60 footers... but they were with my 235/45/18s... might have to search around for some chunky lil tyres for the a** end... you'd suggest something like? eg) 225/60/15? i can get those tyres easy.... i already have the rims...15's that is... |
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TerroristGHIA Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:47 am Post subject: |
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Go to American Autos, get some 235/60/15 Drag T/A's. Street legal Semi-Slicks, and a set of EB XR6 15in rims, then they sit under the gaurds nicely, and trust me you wont have any traction issues with these. I paid 240 each about 2 months ago.
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 1:12 am Post subject: |
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thanks brett... if its good enough for your ef then its good enough for my ef  |
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