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mugen Fordmods Oompa Loompa
Posts: 44 Joined: 12 Dec 2004 Location: sydney NSW, Australia
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 5:57 pm Post subject: crane 2031 |
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| can anyone tell me if i could run the crane 2031 cam with auto and stock converter...running AFR 165's and modified explorer manifold |
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sam12h Fordmods - Smokin em up
Age:31 Posts: 265 Joined: 03 Dec 2004 Location: Springwood NSW, Australia
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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| xr8 chic uses this cam, and with 185s and perf rpm intake. ask her what it's like. |
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One Drone Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
Age:22 Posts: 2033 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Penrith NSW, Australia
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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Good cam, not that lumpy and ideally used with 1.72 ratio rockers.  |
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EBXR8380 Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
Age:55 Posts: 2496 Joined: 07 Nov 2004 Location: Penrith NSW, Australia
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Cannot go wrong with this cam..But upgrade springs.... |
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EDXR8 Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
Age:29 Posts: 1440 Joined: 07 Nov 2004 Location: Adelaide SA, Australia
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 1:45 am Post subject: |
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| As said, great cam and will work fine with stock auto stall. It is suppose to idle nicely but some people (mainly later madel ie AU's) have idle problems. |
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XR8Chic Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
Age:31 Posts: 1386 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Somewhere VIC, Australia
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah - good cam.
As EBXR8380 says - upgrade your springs!!! (and make sure the upgraded ones actually get into the engine, and not in someones tool chest).
I had a few idle problems (as in the fact that it wouldnt idle at all - but I was running stock manifold, and ported E7 heads at the time).. but it was sorted out with a reprogram of the unichip. |
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mugen Fordmods Oompa Loompa
Posts: 44 Joined: 12 Dec 2004 Location: sydney NSW, Australia
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 5:22 pm Post subject: Re: crane 2031 |
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| mugen wrote: | | can anyone tell me if i could run the crane 2031 cam with auto and stock converter...running AFR 165's and modified explorer manifold |
thanks for the replies guys and girls...i just might go with this cam...if this car is an every day driver would you still recomend it...? |
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XR8Chic Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
Age:31 Posts: 1386 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Somewhere VIC, Australia
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:29 am Post subject: |
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I have had that cam in my car XR for 3.5 years now.
She was my daily driver till last christmas, when I killed the motor again... and had to buy another car while she was getting rebuilt.
so yeah - its good for a daily driver. |
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Fairmont99 Fordmods - Smokin em up
Age:25 Posts: 241 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Melbourne VIC, Australia
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:48 am Post subject: |
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| EDXR8 wrote: | | As said, great cam and will work fine with stock auto stall. It is suppose to idle nicely but some people (mainly later madel ie AU's) have idle problems. |
Why do AUs have idle problems with the 2031? |
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EDXR8 Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
Age:29 Posts: 1440 Joined: 07 Nov 2004 Location: Adelaide SA, Australia
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:53 am Post subject: |
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| Fairmont99 wrote: | | Why do AUs have idle problems with the 2031? |
Don't know why, obviously something in their EEC programming. |
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XR8Chic Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
Age:31 Posts: 1386 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Somewhere VIC, Australia
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe its the same reason why ED's have idle problems with it.
most cars I know with cams have idle problems. It just hunts a bit - no biggy |
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EDXR8 Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
Age:29 Posts: 1440 Joined: 07 Nov 2004 Location: Adelaide SA, Australia
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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| XR8Chic wrote: | Maybe its the same reason why ED's have idle problems with it.
most cars I know with cams have idle problems. It just hunts a bit - no biggy |
Both cams I have run have been larger than the 2031 and both idle fine. I also know 3 others running 2031/2030 cams in their E-series V8's and they idle fine too so I think it's just hit and miss. Even if they idle bad, there are always ways to get the idle back to normal, just have to find out why. |
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EBXR8380 Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
Age:55 Posts: 2496 Joined: 07 Nov 2004 Location: Penrith NSW, Australia
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Bassically with bigger cams they need MORE air to idle and need to idle slightly higher..The old method around this was to drill a hole in butterfly..Notice std 55mm had a hole in b/f but my Cobra 65mm didn't...The other way around this is to open throttle position and adjust tps back to under 1v koeo..Too low rpm means low vacuum which plays havoc with eec, it thinks its under load with low vacuum then corrects causing surge....Right Pete ? |
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XR8Chic Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
Age:31 Posts: 1386 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Somewhere VIC, Australia
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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| EDXR8 wrote: |
Both cams I have run have been larger than the 2031 and both idle fine. I also know 3 others running 2031/2030 cams in their E-series V8's and they idle fine too so I think it's just hit and miss. Even if they idle bad, there are always ways to get the idle back to normal, just have to find out why. |
yep... mine was relatively easy to fix (just took my tuner a few attempts to get it perfect).
Used to be good fun, as I could recognise when the car was going to stall, and correct it. but anyone else who tried to drive the car would stall it a few times.
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mugen Fordmods Oompa Loompa
Posts: 44 Joined: 12 Dec 2004 Location: sydney NSW, Australia
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 9:10 pm Post subject: Re: crane 2031 |
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| mugen wrote: | | can anyone tell me if i could run the crane 2031 cam with auto and stock converter...running AFR 165's and modified explorer manifold |
Also how is the 2030 compared to the 2031... as the crane 2030 uses 1.6 ratio rockers therefor less valve guide wear... |
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MrLandau
Age:35 Posts: 503 Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Location: Adelaide SA, Australia
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Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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The peak lift on the 2030 (1.6) and 2031 (1.72) is much the same so valve wear will be much the same between the two of them. The ramp rates on the 2030 is a little quicker so it produces a little more power in low to mid but it would take a dyno to work out the power differences between them.
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LTDHO Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
Age:34 Posts: 562 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: South eastern VIC, Australia
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm still running the 2031 with mine. Had no prob's. Good all round cam. Makes good power. 1.7 roller rockers a must. It wouldn't hurt to get a new convertor. I believe the Ford ones tend to slip more. |
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