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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 5:57 pm    Post subject: crane 2031 Reply with quote

can anyone tell me if i could run the crane 2031 cam with auto and stock converter...running AFR 165's and modified explorer manifold
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xr8 chic uses this cam, and with 185s and perf rpm intake. ask her what it's like.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good cam, not that lumpy and ideally used with 1.72 ratio rockers. icon_razz.gif
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cannot go wrong with this cam..But upgrade springs....
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As said, great cam and will work fine with stock auto stall. It is suppose to idle nicely but some people (mainly later madel ie AU's) have idle problems.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah - good cam.

As EBXR8380 says - upgrade your springs!!! (and make sure the upgraded ones actually get into the engine, and not in someones tool chest).

I had a few idle problems (as in the fact that it wouldnt idle at all - but I was running stock manifold, and ported E7 heads at the time).. but it was sorted out with a reprogram of the unichip.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 5:22 pm    Post subject: Re: crane 2031 Reply with quote

mugen wrote:
can anyone tell me if i could run the crane 2031 cam with auto and stock converter...running AFR 165's and modified explorer manifold

thanks for the replies guys and girls...i just might go with this cam...if this car is an every day driver would you still recomend it...?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had that cam in my car XR for 3.5 years now.

She was my daily driver till last christmas, when I killed the motor again... and had to buy another car while she was getting rebuilt.

so yeah - its good for a daily driver.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EDXR8 wrote:
As said, great cam and will work fine with stock auto stall. It is suppose to idle nicely but some people (mainly later madel ie AU's) have idle problems.


Why do AUs have idle problems with the 2031?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fairmont99 wrote:
Why do AUs have idle problems with the 2031?


Don't know why, obviously something in their EEC programming.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe its the same reason why ED's have idle problems with it.

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most cars I know with cams have idle problems. It just hunts a bit - no biggy
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

XR8Chic wrote:
Maybe its the same reason why ED's have idle problems with it.

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most cars I know with cams have idle problems. It just hunts a bit - no biggy


Both cams I have run have been larger than the 2031 and both idle fine. I also know 3 others running 2031/2030 cams in their E-series V8's and they idle fine too so I think it's just hit and miss. Even if they idle bad, there are always ways to get the idle back to normal, just have to find out why.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bassically with bigger cams they need MORE air to idle and need to idle slightly higher..The old method around this was to drill a hole in butterfly..Notice std 55mm had a hole in b/f but my Cobra 65mm didn't...The other way around this is to open throttle position and adjust tps back to under 1v koeo..Too low rpm means low vacuum which plays havoc with eec, it thinks its under load with low vacuum then corrects causing surge....Right Pete ?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EDXR8 wrote:

Both cams I have run have been larger than the 2031 and both idle fine. I also know 3 others running 2031/2030 cams in their E-series V8's and they idle fine too so I think it's just hit and miss. Even if they idle bad, there are always ways to get the idle back to normal, just have to find out why.


yep... mine was relatively easy to fix (just took my tuner a few attempts to get it perfect).

Used to be good fun, as I could recognise when the car was going to stall, and correct it. but anyone else who tried to drive the car would stall it a few times.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 9:10 pm    Post subject: Re: crane 2031 Reply with quote

mugen wrote:
can anyone tell me if i could run the crane 2031 cam with auto and stock converter...running AFR 165's and modified explorer manifold

Also how is the 2030 compared to the 2031... as the crane 2030 uses 1.6 ratio rockers therefor less valve guide wear...
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The peak lift on the 2030 (1.6) and 2031 (1.72) is much the same so valve wear will be much the same between the two of them. The ramp rates on the 2030 is a little quicker so it produces a little more power in low to mid but it would take a dyno to work out the power differences between them.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still running the 2031 with mine. Had no prob's. Good all round cam. Makes good power. 1.7 roller rockers a must. It wouldn't hurt to get a new convertor. I believe the Ford ones tend to slip more.
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