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Reddevil Fordmods Stock as a Rock
Age:25 Posts: 119 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Perth WA, Australia
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Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 10:42 pm Post subject: Bosch super 4 spark plugs LPG/petrol |
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Just wanted to know if anyone has any opinions on the bosch super 4 spark plugs (4 post "performance" plugs). Thought I'd give them a go, its going in a duel fuel EL i6 which runs more often on petrol than LPG at the moment.
it's about time I did the plugs and leads.
According to the bosch catalogue it looks like I'm after the WR91V part but I'm not sure if thats also duel fuel since it has an LPG entry? (or is that straight LPG) which also has the same part number.. arrgh.
http://apps.bosch.com.au/products/saa/sparkplugs_passenger.pdf
page 22 of the catalogue.
any help would be great |
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Disco Frank Fordmods Junkie
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Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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from what i hear these plugs are sick as! with the 4 terminals so to speak there is more chance of even spark over teh life of the plug! which menas more sonsistnet burn = more power  |
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Interceptor Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| i've heard some pretty good things about these plugs, but arent they pretty exxy? |
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smoke_ Cruise Moderator
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Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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| im running them in my ef, i paid $48 if i remember correctly. |
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Disco Frank Fordmods Junkie
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 12:08 am Post subject: |
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| smoke_rubber wrote: | | im running them in my ef, i paid $48 if i remember correctly. | damn thats cheap! |
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Reddevil Fordmods Stock as a Rock
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 1:13 am Post subject: |
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| Interceptor wrote: | | i've heard some pretty good things about these plugs, but arent they pretty exxy? |
think it was around $52 (6 pack) from $upercheap? |
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1 SLY 97EL Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 6:06 am Post subject: |
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Yeah I was looking at those Super 4's yesterday at Supercheap. But I couldn't seem to find the part listing for them on the Shelf. Unless they have them locked up somewhere else. I was going to ask for them but like yourself wasn't sure whether they were worth the extra for them and so I ended up going the standard EL XR6 ones ( WR9-DLX) Yeah so if people could give more details on their experience with them that would be great  |
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ReGiE Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 7:56 am Post subject: |
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im runnig them ion my EB and they are a great plug. the car runs a lot smoother than it used to.
i paid about 50 buck for the 6. but that was about 6 months ago. the other option is the NGK iridiums but there are around double the price |
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dddp! Fordmods - Smokin em up
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Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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i was gunna try these too, cept i run my ef mainly on gas and the projected gap plugs make big difference to starting the engine when its on gas
are the super4 plugs available in projected gap versions? |
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opto Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
Age:45 Posts: 730 Joined: 11 Nov 2004 Location: Adelaide SA, Australia
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Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 8:04 pm Post subject: Awsome plugs |
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Have been running them in my ED 4.0 I for 3 years, all I can say is Awsome.
PS... Running on PULP only |
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cabridge Fordmods Newbie
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Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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mine cost $57 from supercheap, alot smoother, runs ALOT better with optimax also my brothers EB GL (single point) kept fouling the plugs (especially no.4) and the super 4's fixed this. |
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Reddevil Fordmods Stock as a Rock
Age:25 Posts: 119 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Perth WA, Australia
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Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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| dddp! wrote: | i was gunna try these too, cept i run my ef mainly on gas and the projected gap plugs make big difference to starting the engine when its on gas
are the super4 plugs available in projected gap versions? |
AFAIK the super 4's only come in the 4 post surface-air gap arrangement. The idea being the spark takes the shortest path so theres no need to gap them.
Theres regular bosch non-super4's for EF/EL lpg (dedicated?) which has the plug code W8LCR. So how do you know which part it is if it doesnt list the actual product number for ordering them?
This is what gets confusing about the bosch plug catalog. It basically says XF-EL falcons all use the same plug codes (lpg and tickford engines with their own) with the product number listed as a super 4 6pack. Some of the LPG plugs have a different product number while others have the same product number as a type listed as a super 4's but no separate product number listed for some of the LPG entries.
Will they make up their mind and decide if its a super or a super4 with the same product numbers as the other plugs with the same plug code or what
I still haven't worked out if the WR91V plugs are for duel fuel yet.
arrgh. |
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dddp! Fordmods - Smokin em up
Posts: 243 Joined: 16 Nov 2004 Location: Bunbury WA, Australia
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 8:39 am Post subject: |
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| Reddevil wrote: | AFAIK the super 4's only come in the 4 post surface-air gap arrangement. The idea being the spark takes the shortest path so theres no need to gap them.
I still haven't worked out if the WR91V plugs are for duel fuel yet.
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yeah i know about there's no need to gap them, what i was getting at is the standard tickford lp gas are projected gap plugs, that is they are longer than petrol plugs and stick further out into the combustion chamber than petrol plugs
so what i was asking is are the super 4 plugs projected gap plugs too, as in longer than petrol plugs, no wether they need to be gapped or not
anyways, as i understand their catalogue, the WR91V plugs are for lp gas, my ef according to catalogue should have WR78 for lp gas, must be something to do with the different ignition system
best way to answer your question and mine is to ask bosch, so that's what i going to do
cheers |
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PC EB Fordmods Parts Gopher
Age:23 Posts: 97 Joined: 08 Dec 2004 Location: Melbourne VIC, Australia
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 10:33 am Post subject: |
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| ReGiE wrote: | | the other option is the NGK iridiums but there are around double the price |
Yes but Iridium plugs last longer. |
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