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elrob Fordmods Parts Gopher
Age:29 Posts: 82 Joined: 03 Apr 2006 Location: gladstone QLD, Australia
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samftr Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
Age:26 Posts: 986 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Brisbane QLD, Australia
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Let me know if you guys use shell LPG formulated oil 15w40, i use that in the ef falcon 6, it has, however, got 326,000 kays on it (not taxi) just recently blown a seal somewhere on it, using a bit o oil and i got some timing chain rattle, MEH, she still goes well. i need a slap, but yea anyone use that? Its fairly expensive at27.95 for 5 litres for mineral oils |
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voxace Technical Contributor
Age:23 Posts: 3092 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Ivanhoe NSW, Australia
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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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I'm going to be swapping over to MOTUL 10w40 next change for the AU motor. Currently using HPR10 but I think it's too thick.
I used to use HPR30 in my EB motor, started using that at about 180,000km and I think that's what stuffed it. When I pulled it apart the bores were badly glazed which is why it was using a lot fo oil and blowing smoke.
So take this guys advice people, and don't use oil that is too thick. |
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samftr Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
Age:26 Posts: 986 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Brisbane QLD, Australia
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 6:59 am Post subject: |
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| ten four voxace, Its unusual for those engines to start blowing smoke at such low mileage, musta got damn hot in the bores with no oil or something ya think? I cant remember which mechanic told me that changing to some oils with different types of detergents in them can stuff the seals in cars too. but i think the front seal on mine is rooted from lots of heavy right foot application, towing etc. |
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voxace Technical Contributor
Age:23 Posts: 3092 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Ivanhoe NSW, Australia
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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| OK, put some Motul 8100 5w40 in. Started her up, no noises, and actually got better oil pressure than I did with the Penrite 10w50 oddly enough. |
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fordzatmyplace Cruise Moderator
Age:21 Posts: 4611 Joined: 29 Jul 2005 Location: Launceston TAS, Australia
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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| voxace wrote: | | OK, put some Motul 8100 5w40 in. Started her up, no noises, and actually got better oil pressure than I did with the Penrite 10w50 oddly enough. |
would it be safe to run the 5w40 in the 3.9 with 154,000 kms??
Lifters in mine have NEVER ticked ever. Even after leaving it for a week. It has always run 15w50 |
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tickford_6 Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
Age:25 Posts: 3713 Joined: 11 Nov 2004 Location: townsville QLD, Australia
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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| fordzatmyplace wrote: | | voxace wrote: | | OK, put some Motul 8100 5w40 in. Started her up, no noises, and actually got better oil pressure than I did with the Penrite 10w50 oddly enough. |
would it be safe to run the 5w40 in the 3.9 with 154,000 kms??
Lifters in mine have NEVER ticked ever. Even after leaving it for a week. It has always run 15w50 |
you'll never know if you dont try. so few km is a bonus, is there any reason you didn't use the 15w40 the ford recomend? |
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fordzatmyplace Cruise Moderator
Age:21 Posts: 4611 Joined: 29 Jul 2005 Location: Launceston TAS, Australia
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| tickford_6 wrote: | | fordzatmyplace wrote: | | voxace wrote: | | OK, put some Motul 8100 5w40 in. Started her up, no noises, and actually got better oil pressure than I did with the Penrite 10w50 oddly enough. |
would it be safe to run the 5w40 in the 3.9 with 154,000 kms??
Lifters in mine have NEVER ticked ever. Even after leaving it for a week. It has always run 15w50 |
you'll never know if you dont try. so few km is a bonus, is there any reason you didn't use the 15w40 the ford recomend? |
thats just what the previous owners used. Plus, on the oil filler cap thingy on the rocker cover it says "only use 40/50 multigrade oil" so i thought the 15w50 would be okay |
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tickford_6 Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
Age:25 Posts: 3713 Joined: 11 Nov 2004 Location: townsville QLD, Australia
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Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 11:18 am Post subject: |
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| fordzatmyplace wrote: | | tickford_6 wrote: | | fordzatmyplace wrote: | | voxace wrote: | | OK, put some Motul 8100 5w40 in. Started her up, no noises, and actually got better oil pressure than I did with the Penrite 10w50 oddly enough. |
would it be safe to run the 5w40 in the 3.9 with 154,000 kms??
Lifters in mine have NEVER ticked ever. Even after leaving it for a week. It has always run 15w50 |
you'll never know if you dont try. so few km is a bonus, is there any reason you didn't use the 15w40 the ford recomend? |
thats just what the previous owners used. Plus, on the oil filler cap thingy on the rocker cover it says "only use 40/50 multigrade oil" so i thought the 15w50 would be okay |
if thats what it had in it for its whole life then dont change. |
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Hotwire Fordmods Stock as a Rock
Age:28 Posts: 121 Joined: 08 Nov 2004 Location: Adelaide SA, Australia
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 9:17 am Post subject: |
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Quick Q:
When cold my oil pressure varies between 4.3-4.7 bar, but when hot the oil pressure can drop as low as 1.9-2.1 bar on idle, and 2.3-2.5 bar WHILE moving/reving! I'm fairly certain the current oil is 15/40 valvoline durablend (in it when I bough the car). Would you agree that going up to penrite HPR 15 (15/60) would help improve the hot running pressure, while maintaining the same cold engine performance?
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fourL6 Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
Age:20 Posts: 1122 Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Location: Trafalgar VIC, Australia
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 10:35 am Post subject: |
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Another Quick Q:
my I6 uses a bit more oil than it should (i just thought it would because its worked) and the oil pressure when starts is around 3-4 but when warm its around 7+ im using Shell Helix 20w-50. sould i change? |
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Eu-GenixX Fordmods Tyre Shredder
Age:28 Posts: 353 Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Location: Brisbane QLD, Australia
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 9:51 am Post subject: |
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how much oil do you fill it up with?
like when changing oil.. how many litres do i use to refil it? or is that in the handbook thingy? |
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tickford_6 Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
Age:25 Posts: 3713 Joined: 11 Nov 2004 Location: townsville QLD, Australia
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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| fourL6 wrote: | Another Quick Q:
my I6 uses a bit more oil than it should (i just thought it would because its worked) and the oil pressure when starts is around 3-4 but when warm its around 7+ im using Shell Helix 20w-50. sould i change? |
i wouldn't use anything thicker then 20w50, ever |
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fourL6 Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
Age:20 Posts: 1122 Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Location: Trafalgar VIC, Australia
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 11:16 am Post subject: |
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| tickford_6 wrote: | | fourL6 wrote: | Another Quick Q:
my I6 uses a bit more oil than it should (i just thought it would because its worked) and the oil pressure when starts is around 3-4 but when warm its around 7+ im using Shell Helix 20w-50. sould i change? |
i wouldn't use anything thicker then 20w50, ever |
if i go say 40w10 will it warm upfaster and have a lower oil pressure??? |
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tickford_6 Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
Age:25 Posts: 3713 Joined: 11 Nov 2004 Location: townsville QLD, Australia
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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| fourL6 wrote: | | tickford_6 wrote: | | fourL6 wrote: | Another Quick Q:
my I6 uses a bit more oil than it should (i just thought it would because its worked) and the oil pressure when starts is around 3-4 but when warm its around 7+ im using Shell Helix 20w-50. sould i change? |
i wouldn't use anything thicker then 20w50, ever |
if i go say 40w10 will it warm upfaster and have a lower oil pressure??? |
your oil has no bearing on how fast the engine will warm up.
as far as oil pressure there is only one way to find out. |
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stomper Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
Age:18 Posts: 2983 Joined: 15 Apr 2006 Location: Aberfoyle Park SA, Australia
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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I use Shell Helix Ultra (5W40) and its been used on the Ef for aslong as the previous owner has
I think its good.
BTW DONT use any castrol oil what so ever. If any of you know anything about it what happens is it sticks to the motor and blocks of holes where the oil is supposed to flow. Castrol dont put solvents in the oil and this is where you get teh magnatec from. GTX is the worst of the lot. |
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Eu-GenixX Fordmods Tyre Shredder
Age:28 Posts: 353 Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Location: Brisbane QLD, Australia
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Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 7:33 am Post subject: |
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don't tell me that.. i just got myself a bottle of that stuff to chuck in my car...
altho i will be changing the oil again once i have the turbo setup running... |
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Kingkezza Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| voxace wrote: | | OK, put some Motul 8100 5w40 in. Started her up, no noises, and actually got better oil pressure than I did with the Penrite 10w50 oddly enough. |
I just bought some Motul 4100 10W40 today for my car, cheap as chips compared to all the other synthetic oils! Also the guy said it is a really great oil, and recommended it for both NA and tubo applications.
Are there any disadvantages (apart from the cost) of using a fully synthetic oil in your engine? As someone said the castrol fully synthetic GTX can actually clog up your oil galleries  |
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Eu-GenixX Fordmods Tyre Shredder
Age:28 Posts: 353 Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Location: Brisbane QLD, Australia
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Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| well i've just put that magnatec stuff in my car.. so see how it goes.... |
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