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teeys
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was considering getting rid of my 302 fairlane and maybe picking up a 351 esp or similar. i expect the fuel consumption to be worse, just wondering if anyone who owns a 351 or both could say how different. atm i generally get 450-500 to a 68ltr tank of reg. unleaded.
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brett351
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| Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| well halve it and take some off and you will be getting close.... once you settle down, a little bit better |
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Macca
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| Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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| brett351 wrote: | | well halve it and take some off and you will be getting close.... once you settle down, a little bit better |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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my XE 302 auto esp got 230/250 with semi-lead-foot driving.
i would hate to see what a 351 manual fuel consumption would be. |
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xd351wgn
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| Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 5:58 am Post subject: |
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| Well going absolutly crazy killing tyres i got a half hour out of 70lts, so about 100k fo burnouts... i got from canberra to cambletown on a take of fuel all high way driving, at 100k's i was quite happy with that |
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MikGan
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| Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 8:07 am Post subject: |
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| yeah 70lts would get me about 200k's I reckon |
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GTFORDMAN
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| Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| MikGan wrote: | | yeah 70lts would get me about 200k's I reckon |
that sounds about right, give or take a bit, my 302 Clev, use to go from Muswellbrook to Sydney on less than a tank, but that was going @ 140kph & @ 4000rpm, but once the trip went at 90kph the whole way and we had to fill up again befor we got to Sydney, go fig 
hey Mik your avartar mate 
you can have that, but Frank cant have his Boobies Back, wheres the justice?? |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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| GTFORDMAN wrote: | | MikGan wrote: | | yeah 70lts would get me about 200k's I reckon |
that sounds about right, give or take a bit, my 302 Clev, use to go from Muswellbrook to Sydney on less than a tank, but that was going @ 140kph & @ 4000rpm, but once the trip went at 90kph the whole way and we had to fill up again befor we got to Sydney, go fig
hey Mik your avartar mate
you can have that, but Frank cant have his Boobies Back, wheres the justice?? |
I got around 21Ltrs per 100 in town driving carefully or like a d***head and just over 20Ltrs per 100 hwy driving gently at 100kph, it was just the wrong gearing, cam, Holley (didn't matter what size or jetting), mechanical electronic dissy, setup and weight. XF Ghia wagon 351C, 2.77 and FMX. |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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i think i get around 26L per 100k, city and about 20L 100K highway cause of ratio's and cam.
thats with 2.7 diff and a stage 3 shift kitted c4 behind a bigger clevo. |
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XR8Chic
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I used to be able to get from Penrith to Albury on 1 tank in my 302. I dont think it will do it now. (I went through over half a tank the other night when I let a mate drive my car)
Same mate has a 351 Clevo. I think he said 28L per 100 is what he gets. |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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| my 351 got 300k's out of 80L not pushing it thou that's why i run gas lol 280k's out of 79L of lpg |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| had an xc fairmont that could go from canberra to sydney and half back on 70 ltrs with a 302, 2.92 diff driving at 110. changed to 351, could just get from canberra to syd at 140. |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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Ouch.
Glad I'm only running a 4L 6 banger, those are some scary (considering current fuel prices) economy figures. Can you really call it economy??? |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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| In stock form in reality there isn't a great deal of difference in fuel ecconomy between a stocker 302 & 351 & seeing as an ESP would be lighter then a Fairlane it could even be a touch better but what is the point of a stocker engine & when you start to mod with carby cars you can forget about fuel ecconomy as Kel mentioned the RTA tested my car & came up with an average of about 28.5 litres per 100kms but they really didn't get up it in the testing so I would expect it would actually be worse then that. |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| you will use heaps more but it will be worth every cent ive had heaps of clevos now ive got a 5.0 eb and an au xr8 but guess what the ebs on the market so i can get me another clevo |
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| Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| v8fordman351 wrote: | | you will use heaps more but it will be worth every cent ive had heaps of clevos now ive got a 5.0 eb and an au xr8 but guess what the ebs on the market so i can get me another clevo |
NO wonder I can't get a V8 - you got 'em all. |
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| Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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my el has a 68L tank and get's about 500k's so $70 will get me 500k's in my EL but $70 will get me around 600k's in my XD
clevo is cheaper when it is on gas then EL not on gas |
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teeys
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| Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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thats interesting, ive seen a few 351 XD/XE's on straight gas.. i assumed it would chew through that s**t like white ants on chipboard
if it doesnt though, thats great news. id rather be on gas~ |
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| Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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| teeys wrote: | thats interesting, ive seen a few 351 XD/XE's on straight gas.. i assumed it would chew through that s**t like white ants on chipboard
if it doesnt though, thats great news. id rather be on gas~ |
really depends on the clevo my last xd was 351 with 2 1/2 stall 3.5 diff and straight gas research twin throttle bodys and convertors and it used to get 180ks to 65/70ltr usable tank but dam i wish i never sold it |
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brett351
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| Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 8:23 am Post subject: |
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| v8fordman351 wrote: | | teeys wrote: | thats interesting, ive seen a few 351 XD/XE's on straight gas.. i assumed it would chew through that s**t like white ants on chipboard
if it doesnt though, thats great news. id rather be on gas~ |
really depends on the clevo my last xd was 351 with 2 1/2 stall 3.5 diff and straight gas research twin throttle bodys and convertors and it used to get 180ks to 65/70ltr usable tank but dam i wish i never sold it |
Yep, running the same on the XY (on a manual box). I have a 80l usable tank and I fill up half way from Sydney to Canberra. But really, the car isnt built to be fuel efficient, it was built to cost less to run. I simply couldnt justify the cost of running the car on petrol. The gas gear is worth a few extra bucks during the build, but at 50 cents at the worst during the recent fuel prices, I really dont care about the initial outlay. |
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