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steiphen
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 Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:37 pm Post subject: FMX HELP |
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i got a 351, and i just put another fmx in...
everything is done, but nothing happens, what have i done? |
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| Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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| did you put the torque convertor bolts in?? |
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steiphen
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| Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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| of course it did. but i drained the oil out of it? and didnt refill it does that matter |
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| Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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you drained the ATF out of it and didnt refill it before trying to drive it????
provided that the converter was drained too, just refill the box, and pray that it's all good
if the converter had enough fluid in it to kick the box over, theres a chance you might've burnt the clutch packs and f**k the box
how the f**k did you come up with the bright idea of trying to drive an automatic car without refilling the box after draining the oil out of it |
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pinkbits8u
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| Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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when filling up after a swap it takes a shat load of oil
, are the linkages right
you should av given it at least a filter change - do you know the history of the trans |
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steiphen
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| Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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I changed the filter, and put oil in it before i tried to drive it.
I just didnt refill the convertor. There isnt any smoke?
The box was in working order when it came out, and has been wrapped in plastic, and sitting in a garage for a year.
It was running 400 hp in a XE 351.
I think the convertor has oil, after idiling for a while its hot, like it has hot oil in it. |
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pinkbits8u
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| Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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you dont have to fill convertor as long as you c heck trans oil level soon after starting
are the oil lines to the cooler / radiator blocked
is there anything that is held in by the filter , i know a c4 filter holds a spring and poppet in -mayb fmx is similiar |
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steiphen
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| Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 8:13 am Post subject: |
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The latest.... I drained the oil out of the convertor........... BROWN s**t came out,,,, so then i took th pan off to check the oil i put in it, still red, the filter is fine? The oil isnt going into the convertor. So i putoil in the convertor with a hand pump.. Wheel spin about a inch a minute...
The cooler lines now have a few small drops in it..
Could it be a blockage? |
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| Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like someone stole my avatar from FF.com .... 
I animated that image 
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pinkbits8u
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 9:46 am Post subject: |
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| im out of ideas , its up to an transmission bloke by the sounds of it, im keen to know what the outcome is so keep me posted |
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steiphen
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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we been thinking about it, and found a fmx book......
it looks like the stall is broken.. When we fitted it, it wasnt in properly,,,
when i went to tighten the engine bolts up, one of the metal dowels wouldnt slip in, so i forced it by tightening the bolt....
so it looks like i have done damage..... cause the stall isnt straight, the box isnt either.... only by quarter of a inch or so
Going to put old convertor in.. tomorrow...
fingers crossed!!!! |
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pinkbits8u
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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i nearly did the same the other day with a 1100 dollar converter but stopped before it was too late
we all learn from our mistakes - i found this out the hard way when i did a big end which trashed the bottem and and cam at the nats sat night - i dont know what ive learnt yet but ill figure it out when i investigate what happened |
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steiphen
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 5:38 pm Post subject: PROBLEM SOLVED |
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well, we droped the box out..... i read a fmx book with my mate ken, who i meet on this site.... he figured out it was the low pressure pump, which is bolted in the bell housing...,,, The large cog was cracked!!!!! not sure how, but it has something to do with me forceing the bell housing bolts in because it wasnt lined up properly!!! so next time a dowel wont line up... dont force it!!!!
thanks for ya s help!!! |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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When you do FMX's (all auto's actually) you need to spin the torque converter over until it clicks into the drive spline and then the front pump spline. If you don't get it on the front pump spline (which is the deepest one) you will damage the front pump (which you have done). Done it myself - cost me a front pump on my FMX and a 3500 Dominator converter.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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| MrLandau wrote: | When you do FMX's (all auto's actually) you need to spin the torque converter over until it clicks into the drive spline and then the front pump spline. If you don't get it on the front pump spline (which is the deepest one) you will damage the front pump (which you have done). Done it myself - cost me a front pump on my FMX and a 3500 Dominator converter.
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YES exactly...Live and learn Hmmmm |
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| Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: PROBLEM SOLVED |
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| steiphen wrote: | well, we droped the box out..... i read a fmx book with my mate ken, who i meet on this site.... he figured out it was the low pressure pump, which is bolted in the bell housing...,,, The large cog was cracked!!!!! not sure how, but it has something to do with me forceing the bell housing bolts in because it wasnt lined up properly!!! so next time a dowel wont line up... dont force it!!!!
thanks for ya s help!!! |
A lesson for all ,when installing an auto box ALWAYS install the pair in one shot ,not seperatly it may be heavier but it works.
hows it looking Steve? you should have worn out those 255's by now!  |
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steiphen
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| Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| hey little buddy.... going to finish in the morning, havnt had a chance.. misses been ball breaking me... but ill let ya's know about tomorrow lunch time!!!! |
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