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ian12300
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 Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:15 pm Post subject: anyone here no how to make ef ford falcon diagnostic unit |
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anyone here no how to make ef ford falcon diagnostic unit or have the wiring diagram  |
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GTBob
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| Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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what do you want to diagnose   |
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Gaz
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| Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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well i got this rash right..
oh.. wrong forum
theres a tech doco witht hat pins u have to short/read here if you look up top left under tech docos |
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muzza
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| Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:17 pm Post subject: EBII/ED/EF/EL Diagnostic unit |
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Hello, I will be making another batch in the next few weeks. Plugs into the Diag connector under the dash. Can select engine, transmission, ABS and Airbag. Codes are "read" by tone/lamp indicator. Am doing a set of instructions with codes this time as well. Just awaiting the connectors to come in from overseas. The unit will do EBII,ED,EF,EL (any of the big-white-connector-under-dash vehicles).
I have also made a version to do XF,EA,EB1 in the past as well.
If any interest let me know...
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Mako
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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GTBob
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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Definately interested   |
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joolz
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| A set of analogue multi meters does the same thing and tests volts, speakers on ohms x1 and so on..... |
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mattronics
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| Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:04 am Post subject: |
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| interested |
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snap0964
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| Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:19 pm Post subject: Re: EBII/ED/EF/EL Diagnostic unit |
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| muzza wrote: | Hello, I will be making another batch in the next few weeks. Plugs into the Diag connector under the dash. Can select engine, transmission, ABS and Airbag. Codes are "read" by tone/lamp indicator. Am doing a set of instructions with codes this time as well. Just awaiting the connectors to come in from overseas. The unit will do EBII,ED,EF,EL (any of the big-white-connector-under-dash vehicles).
These will be $89. |
Is your indicator a flashing light, or does it read out the codes?
I take it the transmission test is only for EA's and V8's - essentially those fitted with a TCM ? |
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muzza
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The unit plugs into the Diagnostic connector and has a Buzzer/Light for signalling the codes. It has a selector for choosing Engine (incl Trans on I6), Trans (V8 and some EB I6's), ABS and Airbag. Also has a Power and Fuel Pump indicator. It has a switch for initiating the test sequence.
Yeah, one could do the same with a multimeter.... main advantage of this unit is that you can just plug it in and Read and Clear codes easily.....i.e. convenience.
I am also assembling a user guide incl code tables. Again, much of that info is already available on this site... I'm just packaging the info up in one convenient A5 sized booklet..... but using the Ford Workshop Manuals for sourcing the info.
If one is used to using a meter or lamp, etc then fine..... I originally made one of these for myself and use it fairly frequently.... less fiddly.
I had looked at making a unit to decode and present the codes on an LED or LCD display. Another option would be to send the codes to a Laptop or PDA using Hyperterminal. May do one just for the exercise. But I could not see people spending $300-ish on such a unit. Personnally, the simple little unit I made so far has served me well, and I trust, the guys who have bought them so far (have not heard any complaints).
Anyway, enough rambling.... hope that clarifies. |
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arm79
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| Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:08 am Post subject: |
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I purchased one of these units of muzza at least 3/4 years back.
Worth every cent. Strong, well designed and carefully built.
Multimetres, leds and wires may be cheaper, but nothing beats the convenience of a plug in unit that just works with no hassle, and can test every service item in the car just by turning a knob and flicking a switch.
I may be interested in a new one as well. My one is the original one with only 3 test options. |
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Nicko
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| Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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I have one also
I will post a pic up for those interested
very handy! |
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snap0964
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| Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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I built my own unit a while ago - certainly agree with everything said about convenience and ease of use.
| muzza wrote: | | The unit plugs into the Diagnostic connector and has a Buzzer/Light for signalling the codes. It has a selector for choosing Engine (incl Trans on I6), Trans (V8 and some EB I6's), ABS and Airbag. Also has a Power and Fuel Pump indicator. It has a switch for initiating the test sequence. |
I didn't notice a selection to run the fuel pump while the engine is off, does it have one ?? Very handy for measuring fuel pressure.
Looks a very professional unit, considering the parts and labour involved to build, I think it's an excellent buy, multimeters have their place, but not as far as testing using the test box.
And using jumpers, etc, too fiddly and the chance of shorting the wrong pins out.  |
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fairmont1998
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| Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Very interested
Thought I'd start a list for you muzza:
data_mine
Mako
GTBob
JOSE
mattronics
mr_sperm1
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tjb45
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Updated list
data_mine
Mako
GTBob
JOSE
mattronics
mr_sperm1
fairmont1998
tjb45 |
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muzza
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| Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:22 am Post subject: |
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Guys, an update.....and two questions...
The connectors had been delayed but are supposed to be leaving and winging their way over the waters to me at the end of this week. Should have them by end of next week I expect.
Sorry about the delay, but these are a real b*#@&* to get a hold of in small quantities (minimum orders are normally 1000+ connectors).
User guide... Nearly finished.... it is 40 pages !
Just need to take some pictures and paste them in... but need to check one piece of info ... see Q1...
Q1 - to get one last piece of info in the user guide confirmed... does anyone have a very late model EL ?
The Ford manual suggests that there are differences in the ABS/Airbag code access in late ELs. My code reader may not be able to access these. Needs the "Star Tester" ... big $$.
Could someone with an EL in the last 6 months of it's run (like March 1998 to Aug 1998... the later the better) have a look at the Diagnostic connector and let me know how may pins there are on the top row ?
Pins 1 to 10 counted left to right, top row only... e.g. pins 1, 2, 3 are there, 4 is not, 5 is there, etc.... need there/not-there for each pin.
Q2. Fuel Pump test... how handy would it be ? Snap0964 suggested it may be useful. I cannot add a 5th position on the rotary switch unfortunately. But, may be able work in something like a banana plug socket. One could then extend a wire into the engine bay and earth it to turn on the Fuel Pump ? Please advise.
Thanks for your patience... and any info provided. |
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